Google has advised against "mixing markup" because it "confuses their
parsers". I have not seen similar advice from the other two vendors.

(Which strikes me as odd, but nevertheless...)


On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Daniel Schwabe <[email protected]> wrote:
> Martin,
> I can see the point with Good Relations - they acknowledge they will continue 
> supporting RDFa *with the vocabularies they already support*.
> My question then was about RDFa support for *schema.rdf.org* vocabulary.
> Also, Gio's question is applicable - can one have page markups with both RDFa 
> and schema.org?
>
> Cheers
> D
>
> On Jun 6, 2011, at 14:02  - 06/06/11, Martin Hepp wrote:
>
>> A related matter:
>>
>> Neither Google nor Yahoo are abandoning RDFa parsing. In fact, they improved 
>> their parsing in the past two days when they started to accept price 
>> information in GoodRelations only if the gr:validThrough value is a 
>> xsd:datetime literal in the future. I noticed this when suddenly my 
>> test-cases at
>>
>>   http://www.heppnetz.de/rdfa4google/testcases.html
>>
>> did no longer validate and I had to change the data.
>>
>> Those examples also show that both of their parsers can handle multiple RDFa 
>> vocabularies, e.g. combining GoodRelations with the Vehicle Sales Ontology 
>> http://purl.org/vso/ns or the Tickets Ontology, http://purl.org/tio/ns.
>>
>> So it is your choice to stick to open vocabularies for Web data and RDFa, 
>> instead of trashing superior work for a single, rigid, one-size-fits-all 
>> taxonomy and the much lesser used Microdata syntax. I am not sure whether 
>> paving the way for schema.org into the RDF world is the right signal.
>>
>> If you want to make sure that open, RDFa-based data will be honored by 
>> Google and Yahoo, the best thing you can do is foster the creation of such. 
>> The most effective way would be for all of you to encourage students to 
>> write GoodRelations extension modules for popular shop software, or to 
>> manually add it to large shop sites, e.g. as thesis projects. This is by far 
>> the strongest lever to foster mass adoption of RDFa.
>>
>> We already have such for Magento, Joomla, WPEC/Wordpress; Drupal Commerce, 
>> Prestashop, and oxid eSales are coming. See
>>
>> http://wiki.goodrelations-vocabulary.org/Shop_extensions
>>
>> Best
>> Martin
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Daniel Schwabe wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>> I can agree, in principle, that it may be good that schema.org will 
>>> contribute to the generation of more structured data, albeit not linked, at 
>>> least in the beginning.
>>> Nevertheless, they could have at least published their vocabulary in RDFS, 
>>> as M. Hausenblas and his group at DERI brilliantly did, if only to show 
>>> support for the standard... but this is besides the point.
>>> My major concern is that this seems to be not only a matter of syntax, as 
>>> it is unclear whether their crawlers will *parse* RDFa at all for e.g., 
>>> schema.rdf.org.
>>> From the FAQ, they seem to indicate that they *may* do so if RDFa uptake 
>>> increases (very vague as to what a satisfactory level of adoption is).
>>>
>>> So, can someone clarify, if possible, whether if I publish a page using 
>>> RDFa and schema.rdf.org syntax, it will be properly parsed and indexed in 
>>> any of those search engines?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> []s
> D
>
>
>

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