On Jun 15, 2011, at 10:04 PM, Jason Borro wrote:

> Apologies if my keyboard sneered at you, though comparing an application 
> problem to 1% of hr14 at web scale hardly trivializes it; certainly it does 
> the opposite.  Good luck preserving your mental model if you require 
> webmasters to spell Korzybski.

I'd prefer they actually read him, though I won't hold my breath. Sorry to 
bother you by using a very long foreign name. 

Pat

> 
> On 6/15/2011 6:26 PM, Pat Hayes wrote:
>> On Jun 15, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Jason Borro wrote:
>> 
>>> I agree with your sentiments Danny, fwiw.  The current scheme is a burden 
>>> on publishers for the sake of a handful of applications that wish to "refer 
>>> to these information resources themselves", making them "unable to talk 
>>> about Web pages using the Web description language RDF".
>>> 
>>> What about minting a new URI at 
>>> "http://information.resourcifier.net/encodedURI"; or similar for talking 
>>> about such things?  The service could even add value by tracking last 
>>> update times, content types, encodings, etc.
>>> 
>>> Jason
>>> 
>>> p.s. Don't bother criticizing the half baked idea, I thought about it for<  
>>> 10 seconds.  The point is 100 alternatives could have been hashed out in 
>>> the time spent discussing and implementing http-range-14.
>> I confess to finding this kind of sneering remark rather annoying. If you 
>> think it is this trivial to work out some 'alternative', why don't you come 
>> up with a few actual ideas and see what happens when they get a little peer 
>> review? Your idea, above, hardly makes first base, as Im sure you already 
>> realized when you added the p.s. So why not try inventing one that has a 
>> snowballs chance in hell of actually working? Im sure that the world would 
>> be delighted if you could solve this trivial problem in 5 ways, let alone a 
>> hundred.
>> 
>> If you agree with Danny that a description can be a substitute for the thing 
>> it describes, then I am waiting to hear how one of you will re-write 
>> classical model theory to accommodate this classical use/mention error. You 
>> might want to start by reading Korzybski's 'General Semantics'.
>> 
>> Pat
>> 
> 
> 
> 

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