On 9/26/11 11:16 AM, Sebastian Schaffert wrote:
But then I would say the server should at least reply with a 30x redirect ;-)

Not necessarily, they choosen to implement indirection internally, rather than via HTTP response headers. Naturally, doing via HTTP is more flexible and thereby desirable, but we have to accept that "half bread is better than none" re. this matter i.e., any kind of indirection is better than no indirection re. disambiguation of Data Object ID and Address for accessing its Representation.

Kingsley
Greetings,

Sebastian

Am 26.09.2011 um 17:05 schrieb Alvaro Graves:

Hi Sebastian,

AFAIK it's not a bug, but a feature :). This is done to comply with the 
httpRange-14 issue (i.e., you can't retrieve a person through HTTP but you can 
retrieve a document _about_ a person through HTTP). Since a person and a 
document about a person are different entities, they should have different URIs.

http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#httpRange-14

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Alvaro Graves

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Sebastian 
Schaffert<[email protected]>  wrote:
Dear Jesse,

Thanks for the effort! I am just experimenting with this. If I request my own 
Vanity URL

http://graph.facebook.com/sebastian.schaffert

The data I get back is:

@prefix rdf:<http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-df-syntax-ns#>  .
@prefix rdfs:<http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#>  .
@prefix owl:<http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#>  .
@prefix xsd:<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#>  .
@prefix api:<tag:graph.facebook.com,2011:/>  .
@prefix og:<http://ogp.me/ns#>  .
@prefix fb:<http://ogp.me/ns/fb#>  .
@prefix :<http://graph.facebook.com/schema/~/>  .
@prefix user:<http://graph.facebook.com/schema/user#>  .
</561666514#>
        user:id "561666514" ;
        user:name "Sebastian Schaffert" ;
        user:first_name "Sebastian" ;
        user:last_name "Schaffert" ;
        user:link<http://www.facebook.com/sebastian.schaffert>



Now the problem I see here is that the URI I requested is not the same URI as used in the subject 
of the RDF triples. Same holds btw if I request the data using the ID including "#". 
Which is bad in our case because we filter out triples that do not fulfill this condition to avoid 
importing "invalid" data.

Also, the data should IMHO contain a @base statement defining the base for 
the</561666514#>, because when importing the data the original URI is sometimes 
no longer available.

Lastly, the returned data does not contain the trailing "." required by turtle 
(see http://www.w3.org/TeamSubmission/turtle/#sec-grammar-grammar).

Are there plans to fix this? For me, the more readable data would look like 
this:

@prefix rdf:<http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-df-syntax-ns#>  .
@prefix rdfs:<http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#>  .
@prefix owl:<http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#>  .
@prefix xsd:<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#>  .
@prefix api:<tag:graph.facebook.com,2011:/>  .
@prefix og:<http://ogp.me/ns#>  .
@prefix fb:<http://ogp.me/ns/fb#>  .
@prefix user:<http://graph.facebook.com/schema/user#>  .
<http://graph.facebook.com/sebastian.schaffert>
        user:id "561666514" ;
        user:name "Sebastian Schaffert" ;
        user:first_name "Sebastian" ;
        user:last_name "Schaffert" ;
        user:link<http://www.facebook.com/sebastian.schaffert>



Am 23.09.2011 um 14:09 schrieb Jesse Weaver:

APOLOGIES FOR CROSS-POSTING

I would like to bring to subscribers' attention that Facebook now
supports RDF with Linked Data URIs from its Graph API.  The RDF is in
Turtle syntax, and all of the HTTP(S) URIs in the RDF are dereferenceable
in accordance with httpRange-14.  Please take some time to check it out.

If you have a vanity URL (mine is jesserweaver), you can get RDF about you:

curl -H 'Accept: text/turtle' http://graph.facebook.com/<vanity-url>
curl -H 'Accept: text/turtle' http://graph.facebook.com/jesserweaver
If you don't have a vanity URL but know your Facebook ID, you can use
that instead (which is actually the fundamental method).

curl -H 'Accept: text/turtle' http://graph.facebook.com/<facebook-id>
curl -H 'Accept: text/turtle' http://graph.facebook.com/1340421292
 From there, try dereferencing URIs in the Turtle.  Have fun!
Jesse Weaver
Ph.D. Student, Patroon Fellow
Tetherless World Constellation
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~weavej3/





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