On 1/4/12 11:13 AM, Frans Knibbe | Geodan wrote:
On 2012-01-04 16:54, Yrjana Rankka wrote:
On 1/4/12 17:42 , Yrjana Rankka wrote:
On 1/4/12 17:00 , Kingsley Idehen wrote:


Trouble is that there isn't consensus re. this matter.

For instance, one could assume that the URI / IRI of a named graph resolves to a description of said graph. That wouldn't really imply all the triples in the named graph :-)

Let's consider this situation:

GRAPH <x>
<s1> <p1> "val1";
<p2> "val2";
<p3> "val3".

GRAPH <metadata>
<x> dc:created "somedate";
        dc:modified "someotherdate";
        dc:creator "Zaphod Beeblebrox".

A client dereferences <x>

What would you expect to get?

Cheers,

Oops. This was directed towards Frans, not Kingsley ;)

In that case, let me reply :-)

I was not really expecting anything in particular: data, metadata, or both. The background of my question is that I am trying to use a quad store, but I do not know how it should behave in this respect. Has Virtuoso made a decision on the matter?

Yes, if you want the have a de-referencable URI/IRI for a Named Graph. Make a description of said graph using its URI/IRI :-)

I can understand the option of returning a description of the graph, instead of its triples. In that way a named graph would behave like a data set, which is another collection of triples.

Hmm.

Think of the Named Graph as just another observation subject (a thing/entity) with discernible attributes expressible in graph pictorial form via triples.


I am sure the RDF WG is fully aware of the pros and cons of all options and I wish them much wisdom in finding a solution for the problem. For me things have become clearer. I did not know that the issue is still in debate.

Problem is terminology overloading continues to cause us grief :-(

Regards,
Frans






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