On 26 March 2012 13:06, Michael Hopwood <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Dan, Giovanni, > > Thank you for this dialogue - I've been following this thread (or trying to!) > for some days now and wondering "where is the data model in all this?". > > At the point where "Quite different notions of IR are bouncing around..." > would it not make sense to focus on the fact that there are actually several > well-established, intricately worked-out and *open* standard models that > overlap at this domain, coming from different ends of the "commerciality" > spectrum, and themselves based on consensus, pre-existing (for example, > largely ISO) standards and solid database theory? > > I'm talking about CIDOC-CRM and Indecs, of course: > > www.cidoc-crm.org/ > > http://www.doi.org/topics/indecs/indecs_framework_2000.pdf > > The fact that these 2 models, apparently quite different in domain, converge > on the event-based modelling approach, and both describe information > resources and other types of real world (it's fairly safe to say, all types) > resource in detail but without too much term bloat, would make them strong > contenders for a consensus definition - or at the very least, to point > towards the shape a consensus should take.
So I've been trying to drag FRBR into this conversation for some years now, http://www.frbr.org/2005/07/05/dan-brickley-and-the-w3c ... but not because it (or Indecs, CRM etc., which also have their charm) is good/better/best, ...rather to assert that different models, and levels of detail, make sense in different contexts. Simple flat records have their place, richer multi-entity structures have their place. If we can avoid the Web architecture itself "picking a winner" amongst these different ways of thinking about the results of content creation and publication activities, so much the better. The beauty of the Web architecture is its minimalism and pluralism; the challenge here is to bring more clarity to our discussion while preserving that. But I quite agree that the terminologies from those models may help improve the quality of debate here... cheers, Dan
