On 7/26/12 10:56 AM, Juan Sequeda wrote:


On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:43 AM, Kingsley Idehen <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On 7/26/12 6:50 AM, Michael Brunnbauer wrote:

        Hello Pablo,

        nobody doubts that links are useful and part of a plethora of
        small and big
        databases and APIs.

        What I am particularly interested in is: Why should a
        small/medium sized
        player switch from

        -using URLs of pages about things to using URIs that denote things

        -APIs and RDBs to RDF/SPARQL/OWL


    How about looking at it this way. You are packaging and selling
    data access via the Web. The big challenges are:

    1. slicing up value units
    2. associating monetary values with those units
    3. identifying who has access to units of value, and under what
    terms and conditions.

    1-3 happens in a machine readable way. This is the problem solved
    by WebID, WebID authentication protocols, and WebID based access
    control lists. As I am sure you know, the aforementioned are just
    application of Linked Data.


mmm.. what problem is this solving? How am I reducing costs and saving money with this?

Of course you are reducing costs, saving money, and accelerating enterprise agility if you have control over 1-3.

If you can't control access to your data using sophisticate policies that reflect your data usage domain, the resulting costs will simply introduce inertia.

Remember, I did ask for specificity. You are generalizing when you say: does it reduce costs or save money. In what business model context? . Let's discuss a specific business model associated with Linked Data.

If you want to talk about enterprise exploitation of Linked Data, that's fine. If you want to talk about Data as a Service, that's fine. Let's nail down what we are talking about, that's all I ask of you.

Kingsley


    Links:

    1. https://plus.google.com/s/webid%20acls%20idehen -- posts and
    exercises showcasing utility of WebID ACLs .

    Kingsley


        Regards,

        Michael Brunnbauer

        On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:18:26PM +0200, Pablo N. Mendes wrote:

            Would the offer of data and API integration services
            count? There is linked
            data without Linked Data:
            "Factual Places combines data on 58 million local
            businesses and points of
            interest with rich APIs to bring context to every point
            worldwide."
            http://www.factual.com/solutions/web-and-mobile-apps
            http://www.factual.com/solutions/enterprise

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            2012*)


            On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:08 AM, Kingsley Idehen
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>wrote:

                All,

                There is a tendency assume an eternal lack of
                functional and scalable
                business models with regards to Linked Data. I think
                its time for an open
                discussion about this matter.

                It's no secret, I've never seen business models as
                challenging Linked
                Data. Quite the contrary. That said, instead of a dump
                from me about my
                viewpoints on Linked Data models, how about starting
                this discussion by
                identifying any non "Advertising based business model"
                that have actually
                worked on the Web to date.

                As far as I know, "Advertising" and "Surreptitious
                Personal Profile Data
                Wholesale" are the only models that have made a
                difference to the bottom
                lines of: Google, Facebook, Twitter, Yahoo! and other
                non eCommerce
                oriented behemoths.

                Based on the above, let's have a serious and frank
                discussion about
                business models with the understanding agreement that
                one size will never
                fit all, ever, so this rule cannot be overlooked re.
                Linked Data. Also
                remember, Business models aren't silver bullets, they
                are typically aligned
                with markets (qualified and quantified pain points)
                and the evolving nature
                of tangible and monetizable value.

                Hopefully, the floor is now open to everyone that has
                a vested interest in
                this very important matter :-)

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