Thanks to you both.  Tweak away to get this right! David

On 12/02/2013 17:44, Paolo Ciccarese wrote:
Dear David,
in general we have not been focusing enough on these aspects yet.
However, that is one of the top items in the priority list and it would be great if you could participate to the discussion.

As Rob pointed out, with very few tweaks your example could work in compliance with OA as well.

Best,
Paolo

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Dr David Shotton <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


    On 07/02/2013 14:54, Paolo Ciccarese wrote:
    We also use CiTO and FaBIO for storing the bibliographic data and
those are based on FRBR.
    Dear Paolo, Robert and Herbert,

    I'm in Leiden at a conference with Bob Morris.  We've just had a
    brief discussion about the potential use of AO to characterize
    citations, where the generic CiTO terms don't provide sufficient
    expressiveness.  That has prompted me to look at the new Open
    Annotation Data Model: Open Annotation Core
    <http://www.openannotation.org/spec/core/20130208/core.html>
    published last Friday.

    That document says "Typically an Annotation has a single Body,
    which is the comment or other descriptive resource, and a single
    Target that the Body is somehow "about". " Thus oa:hasBody defines
    the annotation itself, and oa:hasTarget defines the target of that
    annotation.

    If we now apply that to the situation of a bibliographic citation
    that we want to characterize with a new annotation, we must be
    careful to note that oa:hasTarget does NOT apply to the cited
    paper, but rather to the citation that exists between the citing
    paper and the cited paper.

    So we first need to define the annotation as applying to the
    citation, then to define the body of the annotation as something
    distinct from the citing paper, and finally to define the target
    of the annotation as the citation itself. What do people think
    about the following, that uses a Named Graph to define the
    citation?  Comments welcome!

    Kind regards,

    David

    :citationAnnotation a oa:Annotation ;

    oa:hasBody :CommentOnCitation ;

    oa:hasTarget :citationNamedGraph ;

    oa:motivatedBy oa:commenting .

    :CommentOnCitation a fabio:Comment ;

    dcterms:description "I'm citing that paper because it initiated
    this whole field of research".

    :citationNamedGraph {

    <Paper_A> cito:cites<Paper_B> .

    }


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