On 3/31/13 2:54 PM, Alan Ruttenberg wrote:

All the CC-BY licenses require attribution in the a manner specified by the licensor. What needs to be done is that if you release work under a CC license you should specify that you consider the work properly attributed if the licensee includes the original uri in their publications.,

The SA provision doesn't address the issue of how attribution is made. Rather it stipulates that works that build upon a so licensed source need to be themselves licensed in the same way. I'm not personally a fan of this provision, but I understand it may be useful in selected situations.

Finally, it should be noted that you can only use a CC license if you actually have some copy rights in the material you are releasing. In the US, if the material is factual data , then it is not something that can be copyrighted. And if you are producing LOD transliterations of existing resources, you can't slap on a CC license unless the source material is licensed in a manner that gives you the right to do so (google my discussion of the license we see on linkedct.org <http://linkedct.org> if you are curious about this aspect.)

So licensing will only go so far.

If people care about this, and I agree with Kingsley that they should, they should consider articulating their views and including those descriptions - not legally binding, but establishing a community norm - in linked data they publish. Aggregators, reviewers, search tools, users of linked data should pay attention to uses to check and make (public) noise when those norms are flouted. Tutorials and Courses that teach about how to make linked data should include education about these norms.

In academia, citation is not mandated by license or law, but by norms, and it is pretty darned effective. it could become the case that norms are similarly effective in the lod community.


+1000...


Kingsley

Alan

On Mar 31, 2013 1:20 PM, "Kingsley Idehen" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On 3/31/13 7:42 AM, Dominic wrote:


    Should this be stipulated as part of a license agreement?

    CC-BY-SA is an example of such a license.

    Kingsley

    Dominic


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    *From:* Kingsley Idehen <[email protected]>
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    *To:* "[email protected]" <mailto:[email protected]>
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    *Sent:* Saturday, 30 March 2013, 14:35
    *Subject:* Why is it bad practice to consume Linked Data and
    publish opaque HTML pages?

    All,

    " Citing sources is useful for many reasons: (a) it shows that it
    isn't a half-baked idea I just pulled out of thin air, (b) it
    provides a reference for anybody who wants to dig into the
    subject, and (c) it shows where the ideas originated and how
    they're likely to evolve." -- John F. Sowa [1].

    An HTTP URI is an extremely powerful citation and attribution
    mechanism. Incorporate Linked Data principles and the power
    increases exponentially.

    It is okay to consume Linked Data from wherever and publish HTML
    documents based on source data modulo discoverable original
    sources Linked Data URIs.

    It isn't okay, to consume publicly available Linked Data from
    sources such as the LOD cloud and then republish the extracted
    content using HTML documents, where the original source Linked
    Data URIs aren't undiscoverable by humans or machines.

    The academic community has always had a very strong regard for
    citations and source references. Thus, there's no reason why the
    utility of Linked Data URIs shouldn't be used to reinforce this
    best-practice, at Web-scale .

    Links:

    1.
    http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2013-03/msg00084.html
    -- ontolog list post .

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