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Subject: Re: Public SPARQL endpoints:managing (mis)-use and communicating limits to users.
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 23:21:46 +0200
From: Jerven Bolleman <[email protected]>
To: Rob Warren <[email protected]>

Hi Rob,

There is a fundamental problem with HTTP status codes.
Lets say a user submits a complex but small sparql request.

My server sees the syntax is good and starts to reply in good faith.
This means the server starts the http response and sends an 200 OK
Some results are being send....
However, during the evaluation the server gets an exception.
What to do? I can't change the status code anymore...

Waiting until server know the query can be answered is not feasible because that would mean the server can't start giving replies as soon as possible. Which likely leads to connection timeouts. Using HTTP status codes when responses are likely to be larger
than 1 MB works badly in practice.


Regards,
Jerven

On Apr 18, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Rob Warren wrote:

On 18-Apr-13, at 8:53 AM, Jerven Bolleman wrote:

Many of the current public SPARQL endpoints limit all their users to queries of 
limited CPU time.
But this is not enough to really manage (mis) use of an endpoint. Also the 
SPARQL api being http based
suffers from the problem that we first send the status code and may only find 
out later that we can't
answer the query after all. Leading to a 200 not OK problem :(

Jerven,

I agree that a 200 reply to  'query too complex', 'query too big' or 'query 
timeout' is not acceptable. However, limits on queries are a tool to keep dumb 
clients from pounding on the server too hard.

A standardized reply / error would be something that I would like to see in 
that it allows the client to modify its approach to querying the server. It 
would also be an opportunity to have the server signal to the client what 
trade-off it is willing to make between sending more triples and increasing the 
query complexity.

Could '413 Request Entity Too Large', '429 Too Many Requests' and '453 Not 
Enough Bandwidth' be abused here for Sparql endpoints?

rhw


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