On 4/30/13 11:28 AM, Pat Hayes wrote:
Hi KIngsley

Where would you suggest putting the rdfs:isDefinedBy links? If they are in the 
ontology, then presumably by the time you read them you already know which 
ontology you are looking at, no?
Pat,

The benefit of these relations is all about the follow-your-nose aspect of Linked Data. Basically, in a typical Linked Data oriented description page, I end up being only click away from pivoting back to the main ontology and then out to some other class or property description.

I've added the missing relations to my local copy of the ontology using SPARQL 1.1. Now I have a document [1] which shows the desired effect.


Links:

1. http://kingsley.idehen.net/describe/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fpurl.org%2Fnet%2Flio%23depicts -- shows rdfs:isDefinedBy and its inverse providing pivot points back to the main ontology description page

2. http://kingsley.idehen.net/describe/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fpurl.org%2Fnet%2Flio -- main ontology page exposing the classes and properties defined by the ontology.



Kingsley

Pat

On Apr 29, 2013, at 5:44 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:

On 4/29/13 6:18 PM, Margaret Warren wrote:
Hello Yusniel,

Pat Hayes and I have published a paper related to the small lightweight
ontology that
we use for describing the images within the application, though we have now
deviated somewhat from some of our initial thoughts described in that paper.


I could still send you a link if this is the kind of information you are
interested in.

If not, perhaps I could try to answer more specific questions about the
project.

Best Regards,
Margaret Warren
Some links documents that describe the ontology in question:

1. 
http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/html/http/www.imagesnippets.com/lio/lio.owl
2. 
http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/describe/?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.imagesnippets.com%2Flio%2Flio.owl
3. http://www.imagesnippets.com/lio/lio.owl

Margaret:

You could enhance the ontology further (esp. for Linked Data followy-your-nose 
style exploration) by adding rdfs:isDefinedBy relations that associate the 
ontology with the classes and properties that it defines.

Kingsley
-----Original Message-----
From: Yusniel Hidalgo Delgado [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:14 AM
To: Michael Brunnbauer
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: invitation to try ImageSnippets

Hello Michael,

I have a question about the project. Where we can find a published paper or
demo related to the project that show technical decisions taken and
architecture?

Best regards.

Prof. Yusniel Hidalgo Delgado
University of Informatics Sciences
http://www.uci.cu/
Havana, Cuba


----- Mensaje original -----
| De: "Michael Brunnbauer" <[email protected]>
| Para: "Kingsley Idehen" <[email protected]>
| CC: [email protected]
| Enviados: Lunes, 29 de Abril 2013 9:45:20
| Asunto: Re: invitation to try ImageSnippets
|
|
| Hello Kingsley,
|
| I work on that project and will answer your questions.
|
| On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 01:53:09PM -0400, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
| > 1. What is the URL of your SPARQL endpoint? -- I ask because the
| > results in your SPARQL query form don't expose the actual SPARQL
| > service endpoint thereby not allowing me to access data using the
| > SPARQL-Protocol URL patterns.
|
| The SPARQL endpoint with triples has the URL
|
|  http://www.imagesnippets.com/sparql/images
|
| and is updated once per day.
|
| The "always current" version with quads has the URL
|
| http://www.imagesnippets.com/sparql/dbpedia
|
| and uses the image URLs as named graph URIs (the default graph is a
| copy of DPpedia for technical reasons).
|
| > 2. Are you exposing 5-star Linked Data URIs via this service? -- I
| > ask because I took a random URI (plus one for an image I annotated)
| > from your sample SPARQL query and passed it through the Vapour
| > Linked Data URI verifier, without successful results [1][2].
| >
| > I ask the question above because you are minting URIs that denote
| > entities in a domain controlled by your app/service. Thus, you do
| > have the ability to put content negotiation to use by virtue of your
| > URI pattern choices. By that I mean, your content negotiation can be
| > explicit  (using HTTP response metadata) or implicit (hash based
| > HTTP URIs give you that).
| >
| > For instance, I was able to figure out that by substituting ".png"
| > with
| > ".html"  in the URIs generated by your service is how I get to an
| > (X)HTML+RDFa document that exposes the RDF metadata for the image I
| > uploaded and annotated [3]. I successfully passed the document
| > through the W3C RDFa distiller to get a Turtle based description
| > document [4].
|
| Let me be sure I understand you: You took the image URLs and expected
| something else than an image to be served at those URLs ? Perhaps a
| 303 to the (X)HTML+ RDFa document when such a content type is
| requested ? Wouldn't a "Link:" HTTP header with rel=meta be better ?
|
| Regards,
|
| Michael Brunnbauer
|
| > 1.
| > http://uriburner.com:8000/vapour?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.imagesnippets.
| > com%2Fimgtag%2Fimages%2Fmm%40carmapro.com%2FP1010996.JPG&defaultResp
| > onse=dontmind&userAgent=vapour.sourceforge.net
| > -- vapour report on a sample URI
| >
| > 2.
| > http://uriburner.com:8000/vapour?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.imagesnippets.
| > com%2Fimgtag%2Fimages%2Fkidehen%40openlinksw.com%2FLinked_Data_Semio
| > tic_Triangle.png&defaultResponse=dontmind&userAgent=vapour.sourcefor
| > ge.net
| >
| > 3.
| > http://www.imagesnippets.com/imgtag/images/[email protected]/Li
| > nked_Data_Semiotic_Triangle.html
| >
| > 4.
| > http://www.w3.org/2007/08/pyRdfa/extract?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.images
| > nippets.com%2Fimgtag%2Fimages%2Fkidehen%40openlinksw.com%2FLinked_Da
| > ta_Semiotic_Triangle.html&format=turtle&warnings=false&parser=lax&sp
| > ace-preserve=true
|
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