Hi

as far as I know the conference organizers have to pay to springer for the proceedings (i think it's around 30 eur per hardcopy or around 10 eur per e-Version)

marko



On 14.5.2013 13:58, Alexander Garcia Castro wrote:
not sure if they pay. I know we do pay, and with current prices I
would expect conferences like ESWC and ISWC should be able to support
a more open policy. The ISWC2013 proceedings are not free of charge,
see http://www.springer.com/computer/ai/book/978-3-642-35172-3

this is my issue with the whole business model, we write for free, we
review for free, and then we pay to consume the content we generate.
in a time when content is king we are giving it away for free.

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Andrea Splendiani
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,

Do you actually know that Springer is paying something ?
I don't think publishers pay, usually.

best,
Andrea

Il giorno 14/mag/2013, alle ore 10:51, [email protected] (Phillip 
Lord) ha scritto:

Dump Springer, and just publish the results on arXiv. If ESWC cannot
organise a conference at 800 Euro a pop, without cash from Springer,
then perhaps they should try getting a cheaper venue.

Better still, let's separate out the committees, the publication, and
the conference. The committees can look at papers, they can all be
published on arxiv. And people who want can go to the conference.

Phil


Alexander Garcia Castro <[email protected]> writes:
the question is simple. both, eswc and iswc are prominent conferences
because of a serious review process, a well structured set of
committees working hard at the time of organization... but most of
all, because we the community have accepted both conferences to be
important. this will not change. so my point is, are publishers
contributing with money,  serious money, to the organization of the
conferences? how are they buying and how are we selling the
publication rights? If tomorrow there were no springer how much would
that affect the finances of eswc and iswc? substantially? why not
enforcing an open publication policy for iswc and eswc? why not
selling publication rights as a bidding process?

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Rowe, Matthew <[email protected]> wrote:
As authors of accepted papers, don't we have the right to disseminate our
work as a pre-prints anyway? I just put mine online anyway, and always have
done (and will do) for people to download and read.

Matthew

On 14 May 2013, at 10:12, Phillip Lord wrote:

ISWC and ESWC are a particular problem because they are both Springer. I
pulled my paper from publication last year, as they would not do an open
access option.

So, with the situation as it stands, I cannot publish any semantic web
research in either of these two conferences.

Phil

Alexander Garcia Castro <[email protected]> writes:

conferences are important on their own. for instance, right now the
ISWC is an important conference regardless of the publisher of the
proceedings. if I wanted to get the 2012 proceedings I may have to pay
(http://www.springer.com/computer/ai/book/978-3-642-35172-3). do
publishers pay the ISWC organizers for the right to publish the
proceedings? I mean, as things are now the ISWC brings people to
springer, not the other way around.

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Leon Derczynski <[email protected]> wrote:
Reliable dissemination.

CEUR-WS, ACL Anthology et al. do a valuable, critical job.


On 13 May 2013 17:25, Sarven Capadisli <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi!

If we subscribe to science, free and open access to knowledge, what's the
purpose of the arrangement between conferences and publishers?

-Sarven
http://csarven.ca/#i



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