On 6/11/13 9:57 PM, David Booth wrote:
And as I point out to you. Do you think TimBL needs you or I to explain to him that he was thinking about RDF but simply failed to add RDF and SPARQL to the original bullet list. Ah! I guess he also had R-D-F that in mind when he sketched out the original design of the Web too [1]? He had no idea that the labels in the diagram (e.g., "describes" ) denoted relations. He had no idea that hyperlink-enabling those connectors would result in a Web of Linked Data.On 06/11/2013 06:02 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:On 6/11/13 5:15 PM, Luca Matteis wrote:Why are we worried about all of this? "Linked Data" is clearly defined by the four principles of Tim-Berners Lee [1]. RDF is in there. So in order to be Linked Data it has to use RDF.If you don't want to use RDF, then you're not doing Linked Data. You're just doing something else and you're free to call it whatever you want. 1. http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/LinkedData.htmlReally? You are referring to a revision of the original meme [1]. And when you digest that meme, please don't come back inferring that TimBL must have been thinking about RDF when he produced outlined the four points in his original GOLDEN meme.That original GOLDEN meme is archived athttp://web.archive.org/web/20061201121454/http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/LinkedData.html and makes very clear that TimBL *was* thinking about RDF when he wrote that. As I pointed out before athttp://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-comments/2013Jun/0041.html [[ > Uh . . . did you read that entire document? Please do. > Because unless one were intentionally exercising selective > understanding, I do not see how anyone could honestly misread > it so badly as to not realize that it is specifically talking > about RDF and the Semantic Web, making reference to the way the > HTML-based web works, and showing that the same principles > of linking and dereferencing are needed for RDF and the > Semantic Web. The very first paragraph says: > [[ > The Semantic Web isn't just about putting data on the web. It > is about making links, so that a person or machine can explore > the web of data. With linked data, when you have some of it, > you can find other, related, data. > ]] > > And the second paragraph explicitly says: "for data they [are] > links between arbitrary things described by RDF". I don't > know how he could have said it more clearly. > > Claiming that that document in any way supports the notion > that Linked Data is not based on RDF would be disingenuous to > the point of being fraudulent. ]] David
Are you serious? Links:1. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_gkGVgsjaQWc/TTde7zdaagI/AAAAAAAABIg/XEgLEDOBBFU/s1600/TimBernersLeeSketch.jpg -- illustration of original Web design.
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