On 6/17/13 8:49 AM, Barry Norton wrote:
Agreed. It always amuses me to hear how Web/REST is not coupled to HTTP.Applying for a Web job without HTML/HTTP skills is like applying for a Linked Data job without RDF/HTTP.The rest might be interesting to some, but is of zero practical consequence.Barry
Barry,The point here isn't about what's the perception. The debate here is about technical reality expressed in architecture. Also, REST isn't architecture at all, that's just an attempt to describe the kind of client-server computing HTTP enables.
Does the world conflate the World Wide, Web, HTML, HTTP etc.. of course they do. That doesn't turn it into actual technical architecture.
Kingsley
On 17/06/13 13:34, Luca Matteis wrote:Come on! If you're building something that works like the Web but isn't using HTTP, then it's *not* the Web. It's something else that has similar dynamics to the Web (like, I dunno, a gazillion of other things?).On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Kingsley Idehen <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:On 6/17/13 8:17 AM, Luca Matteis wrote:On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Kingsley Idehen <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: The Web isn't about being draconian or tightly coupled to anything. But the Web *IS* tightly coupled to HTTP! Why can't Linked Data then be tightly coupled to RDF?The Web isn't tightly coupled to HTTP. HTTP is an effective route to a global Web. The magic is in the URI, the ability to provide abstraction that enables the loose coupling of data access protocols and data representation formats. FWIW -- when we started releasing Linked Data (at the start of this journey) we did so using resolvable URIs for a variety of schemes, not just HTTP. Even today, in the context of Web-scale verifiable identity, we produce Linked Data solutions that don't mandate HTTP scheme URIs while actually exploiting the kind of entity relationship fidelity that RDF delivers. The beauty of the World Wide Web is that it is actually loosely coupled at its architectural core. HTTP is a productive short-cut to the Web due its increasing ubiquity.--Regards, Kingsley Idehen Founder & CEO OpenLink Software Company Web:http://www.openlinksw.com Personal Weblog:http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen <http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/%7Ekidehen> Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen Google+ Profile:https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about LinkedIn Profile:http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen
-- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Founder & CEO OpenLink Software Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com Personal Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen
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