On 2/23/15 4:34 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
On 21 February 2015 at 20:38, Michael Brunnbauer <[email protected]> wrote:

I admit that what you sketch here is better than what I have sketched with
named graphs. But it seems to require a very sophisticated editor or a
very sophisticated user.
Agreed that the editor needs to be more clever than three text fields
with auto-complete. If a non-RDF user is to be making RDF, at a
triple-level, then the editor must be guiding the user towards the
basic Linked Data principles rather than be a glorified vim. :)


I was talking about an editor where the user can
add triples with arbitrary properties.
.. and arbitrary properties/classes should include ones the user make
up on the spot and relate it to existing properties/classes.

Kingsley was talking about the sentences analogy, and I think we
should keep this in mind. While you shouldn't normally write a whole
book using your own terminology, it's very common to introduce at
least SOME terminology that you specify or clarify for the scope of
the text (e.g. the document, graph, dataset).

It could be something as in a triple (a sentence), show something as
simple as a little [+] button next to the property or class to
specialize it and use this instead in that triple. (making it
available for other triples)

Perhaps Kingsley's approach have some mechanism for specializing or
introducing new properties?

It doesn't have that right now, but it will have such functionality in due course. This feature may or may not make the initial public release.

At the current time, I use nanotation [1][2] as my mechanism to for achieving this goal. Ultimately, an RDF Editor should simply be an alternative to nantation that addresses the needs of those that don't want type RDF statements by hand, in any notation. Yes, they don't want to work with raw editors like: vi, vim, textmate, sublime etc..

Links:

[1] http://kidehen.blogspot.com/2014/07/nanotation.html -- I can create RDF statements that define the nature of things and/or the things themselves

[2] http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/c/8FWGFY -- results of nanotation in a tweet that include the definition of <https://twitter.com/hashtag/shouldBeOfInterestTo#this>

[3] http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/fct/rdfdesc/usage.vsp?g=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fhashtag%2FshouldBeOfInterestTo%23this -- named graphs (documents) that contain the RDF statements used to define this particular relation [basically, this was performed using a series of tweets] .

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Regards,

Kingsley Idehen 
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