On 24/05/2016 16:38, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program wrote:
Is it possible to create a separate list for Calls for participation and calls 
for papers and have them all posted on a website where they are categorized and 
where people can subscribe to either all posts or weekly summaries?
There is an obvious need for these news items, since NO websites exist that 
publish all CfP's (papers or participation) in ICT in general and semantic web, 
linked data, big data, data mining or the Internet of Things in particular.

The option of setting up a separate mailing list just for CfPs was included in the survey I ran a a couple of months ago and it was not well supported. The overall result of that consultation was that, as you say, CfPs are important information. A lot of us need to see them and post them. We're not trying to stop them all together - but we are trying to reduce the amount of cross posting. Most people on this list are also on the semantic-web list, as well as others, and so when we get "sorry for cross posting" messages - you know that's utterly meaningless as multiple copies duly arrive in your inbox.

Let's stop that.

But let's also highlight how we *do* want to receive CfPs. Again, using my survey from March as a basis, the approach with the greatest support is that CfPs are posted to semantic-...@w3.org as long as:

1. The event is relevant to SemWeb/LD.
2. Ideally it also includes the string [CfP] in the subject line.

Since I started clamping down on excessive and unwanted multiple posts, we've had a few examples of that - terrific. See the archive at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/semantic-web/2016May/ and search for [CfP] - it works by golly! I've tried to encourage that further by personally tweeting thanks to those people. See https://twitter.com/philarcher1/status/735016787423731712 for example.

We've had a couple that have only been posted to semantic-web - good - but you don't get the tweet without the [CfP] :-)

On the flip side, we've also blocked a couple of people who are clearly abusing the system despite specific warnings. In one case, we blocked all mail from all addresses on a given domain from all our lists. Drastic, yes - but the abuse has to stop so that the genuine messages are received and appreciated.

A bit of internal W3C-ery for you: every mailing list in our system has an 'owner' - I 'own' all the ones related to SemWeb and data in general (but not XML, that's Liam Quin's job). So I'm *only* applying this policy to the lists in my patch. Colleagues will manage their own list in their own way - but you may be surprised: I'm the nice guy around here. Most colleagues just want to ban all CfPS from all lists. No exceptions, no plea bargaining, no nothing.

I've had several messages of support for these actions - thank you. I've also had complaints. The former outnumber the latter.

Let's see how this pans out - the aim, of course, is for the system to be genuinely useful to everyone.

Cheers

Phil.


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    On Tuesday, May 17, 2016 5:32 AM, Phil Archer <ph...@w3.org> wrote:


 Dear all,

As you may recall, I recently asked members of this list and
semantic-...@w3.org about attitudes to calls for participation [1].

Following that survey, the majority view is that:

1. CfPs are not welcome on this (public-lod@w3.org) list.

2. *Some* CfPs are tolerable on semantic-...@w3.org, especially if the
string '[CfP]' appears in the subject line (for personal filtering).

I will write to the semantic-web list separately but for this list the
rule is simple:

Calls for participation are not allowed on this list.

No exceptions.

None.

This is in line with other lists maintained by W3C that do not allow
such posts.

Any future calls for participation posted to this list will be treated
as spam.

Thanks

Phil

[1] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lod/2016Mar/0051.html



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