Bijan Parsia wrote:
On 24 Mar 2009, at 05:06, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
[snip]
Michel,
303 redirection serves a single purpose: enforcement of the Identity
principle for discrete data objects. If a datum lacks identity it
cannot in away be resourceful.
Identity principle? Resourceful? What is it to be resourceful?
In general (i.e., in the broadest context) the identity conditions of
data objects typically is not their name. E.g., consider lexical form
and xsd:integer.
The identity principle also implies that "Identity" stands alone from
all else, you cannot intermngle with "representation", for instance.
[snip]
I strongly recommend not appealing to potentially tendentious and hard
to explicate, much less empirical support, principles in these
discussions. One is more likely to communication across conceptual
perspectives if one operationalizes one's concepts.
If you are going to honor the Identity principle on the Web,
There's no honor among engineers.
in an unobtrusive manner (i.e., leverage ubiquity of HTTP) there is
no way around the above.
The whole essence of the Linked Data Web comes down to distillation
of Data Objects from the host Information Resources (documents) i.e,
making the Data Objects
These captializations scare me.
[snip]
Scientist are always preoccupied with,
I'm a scientist! I'm not always so preoccupied with database records!
Except DBLP!
and interested in, database records because science lives and dies
By funding!
By publications? Backstabbing? Politics? Grad students and postdocs?
Am I warm?
by the following processes:
Damnit! I got it wrong AGAIN! ;)
1. Hypothesis
2. Observation
3. Conclusion
Tendentious (and very naive) philosophy of science seems poor ground
upon which to sprout the tree of Engineering Consensus!
Seriously, there's a huge, rich literature about the nature and
practice of science. Very little of it would embrace this description
even as a crude formulation.
The steps above are about units of observation ("data"), contextual
representation ("information"), and conclusions ("knowledge").
Such scare quotes are scary! I don't know what a "unit" of
"observation" is, but the history of such concepts as observation
sentences in Carnap doesn't leave me with much hope.
So, at this point, I can't distill out your position, much less how
all this is supposed to support that position. Is it really necessary?
Aren't there simpler, more direct considerations?
In my experience, scientists are completely preoccupied with Data :-)
Well, I hope I've now embiggened your experience!
Cheers,
Bijan.
Bijan,
Is "Identity" important or not? That's the question here.
Is granularity important or not? A variation of the statement above.
303s are just about "Identity" at the datum level within the context of
the Web when using a particular form of HTTP based URI scheme (the Slash
based URI).
Should we be able to reference a datum and de-reference a representation
of its description via the Web?
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Regards,
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