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                            Web Performance

26 August 2015

Attendees

   Present
          Todd, Eli, Ilya

   Regrets

   Chair
          Ilya

   Scribe
          igrigorik

Contents

     * [2]Topics
         1. [3]PerformanceTiming#dom* attributes are poorly
            defined
         2. [4]Should Frame Timing report slow frames only?
         3. [5]Navigation timing and Time-Allow-Origin
         4. [6]Performance Timeline
         5. [7]requestStart definition differ with navtimg
     * [8]Summary of Action Items
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   we'll start, agenda:
   [9]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-perf/2015Aug
   /0016.html

[9] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-perf/2015Aug/0016.html

   ACTION: start thread with plh@ to address first 3 items on
   agenda.

PerformanceTiming#dom* attributes are poorly defined

   ToddReifsteck: we should move this into an issue and figure out
   the missing pieces, this may be more than one issue.

   ACTION: open issue and followup on mailing list to clarify

Should Frame Timing report slow frames only?

   ToddReifsteck: we're ok with that

   eliperelman: left a comment on GitHub, it seems like all the
   use cases are addressed, I don't have a problem with it.

   ACTION: Ilya or Michael to put together a pull to expose slow
   frames only

   eliperelman: does Frame Timing name still make sense?

   frame is a bit of a squishy concept.. we may need to clarify
   its meaning. we should also think about input, scroll handlers,
   etc

   eliperelman: we do some jank detection in gecko side, it's not
   exposed to JS today

   we should continue this discussion on mailing list / github

   (switching topic) for slow frames: we could report periodic
   events with aggregate stats for min/slowest/median frames

   ACTION: we'll take discussion to mailing list

Navigation timing and Time-Allow-Origin

   igrigorik: Use Timing-Allow-Origin to determine same-origin on
   redirects?
   [10]https://github.com/w3c/navigation-timing/issues/20
   ... we would get this behavior if/when we redefine NavTiming on
   top of ResTiming

     [10] https://github.com/w3c/navigation-timing/issues/20

   ToddReifsteck: edge may work like this, need to test.
   ... I think plh@ was close to completing that

   ACTION: followup with plh@ on status and annevk@ to sanity
   check

Performance Timeline

   igrigorik: PerfTimeline task queue must be processed at least
   once every Xms?
   [11]https://w3c.github.io/performance-timeline/#performance-tim
   eline

     [11] https://w3c.github.io/performance-timeline/#performance-timeline

   ToddReifsteck: requestIdleCallback is the only one that
   intentionally designed to potentially starve the queue, others
   don't.

   eliperelman: we can just drop that requirement

   ACTION: igrigorik to remove that section in the algorithm.

requestStart definition differ with navtimg

   ACTION: confirm with plh@

   ACTION: igrigorik to open pull for it

   [12]https://github.com/w3c/resource-timing/issues/8

     [12] https://github.com/w3c/resource-timing/issues/8

   ACTION: ToddReifsteck to followup on issue with list of
   implemented initiator's in IE

   [13]http://w3c.github.io/resource-timing/#widl-PerformanceResou
   rceTiming-initiatorType

[13] http://w3c.github.io/resource-timing/#widl-PerformanceResourceTiming-initiatorType

   igrigorik: we also need to make it fetch aware

   ToddReifsteck: also doesn't say what it should be when its not
   one of those on the list.. we need some MAY's in there

   next call, Sept 9th

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: confirm with plh@
   [NEW] ACTION: followup with plh@ on status and annevk@ to
   sanity check
   [NEW] ACTION: igrigorik to open pull for it
   [NEW] ACTION: igrigorik to remove that section in the
   algorithm.
   [NEW] ACTION: Ilya or Michael to put together a pull to expose
   slow frames only
   [NEW] ACTION: open issue and followup on mailing list to
   clarify
   [NEW] ACTION: start thread with plh@ to address first 3 items
   on agenda.
   [NEW] ACTION: ToddReifsteck to followup on issue with list of
   implemented initiator's in IE
   [NEW] ACTION: we'll take discussion to mailing list

   [End of minutes]

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