On 2015-03-18 13:58, GALINDO Virginie wrote:
Anders,

I don’t see how you can state that this is a replacement of the smart card 
effort, without even consulting the companies supporting it.

Hi Virginie,

Gemalto have been offered *free consulting* on this topic ("smart cards for the 
web") but turned it down.

BTW, this project also makes Microsoft's certificate enrollment scheme 
redundant.

How I can rightfully claim all this?  Because I have researched existing 
products and uses.
In fact, quite a bunch of the people you met at the WebCrypto.Next F2F are 
working with this kind of solutions since years back.

There are also folks in the W3C Payment CG who depend on such solutions not to 
mention DropBox, Spotify and GitHub.

What's missing is an interoperable standard.

Regards
Anders Rundgren


Virginie Galindo

Gemalto

*From:*Anders Rundgren [mailto:anders.rundgren....@gmail.com]
*Sent:* mercredi 18 mars 2015 06:15
*To:* public-web-security@w3.org
*Cc:* Mike West; Anne van Kesteren
*Subject:* Charter Proposal: "Trusted Code" for the Web

Trusted Code for the Web

Existing security-related applications like authentication, payments, etc. are 
all based on that a core-part is executed by statically installed software that 
is supposed to be TRUSTED.

Since web-based applications are transiently downloaded, unsigned and come from 
any number of more or less known sources, such applications are by definition 
UNTRUSTED.

To compensate for this, web-based security-related applications currently rely 
on a hodge-podge of non-standard methods where trusted code is located 
somewhere outside of the actual web application.

Since each browser-vendor have had their own idea on what is secure and useful, 
interoperability has proven to be a major hassle, including the fact that the 
quest for locking down browsers (in order to make them more secure), also tends 
to break applications after browser updates.

Although security-related applications are interesting, they haven't proved to be a 
driver.  Fortunately it has turned out that the desired capability ("Trusted 
Code"), is also used by massively popular music streaming services, cloud-based 
storage services and open source collaboration networks.

The goal for the proposed effort would be to define a vendor- and 
device-neutral solution for dealing with trusted code on the Web.

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This proposal is also supposed to be a replacement for a possible  "smart cards for 
the web" effort

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