"Mark Nottingham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> The Referer header MUST be set, and MUST NOT be overridable; once
>> cross-site XHR is available, sites will want to use it for
>> security, logging, etc.
>
> I don't agree with this, a user agent MUST be allowed to anonymise
> browsing, tracking users is not a suitable reason for changing this
> behaviour.

Referer isn't generally used for user tracking; perhaps you're thinking of cookies?

referer would be very often used for user tracking, if xmlhttprequest was a MUST on send it.

Many, many sites use the Referer as a first-level defense against content-stealing.

This works because site B has no control over the Referer that site A sends. It does not work perfectly (you have to account for browsers that don't send referer), but it works well enough, because third parties can't control how your browser sends Referer headers. If you give programmatic control of the Referer to site B, you allow them to bypass such mechanisms.

Except of course you only allow them if there's some hypothetical cross domain XHR, something which doesn't exist, and then usefully there's a way of taking an XHR stream and converting it to an image or video stream, again something that doesn't exist.

Most browsers today (the only exception I've seen yet is Mozilla) send Referer from XMLHttpRequest; by explicitly disallowing it from being automatically set, you're diverging from the current model for XHR, as well as diverging from the model for normal browser operation.

I don't want to specifically disallow it, I don't want it to be MUST, nor do I see a particular reason for it not to be overridable - a browser may want to not allow it to be overridable without specific user agreement outside of the same domain for such reasons, but I don't see the reason for disallowing it from overriding within the same domain - given that any cross domain is with the explicit agreement of the user in all implementations today, I don't see the problem with any of them setting it, indeed I have many use cases for it.

The most prominent being the same Accessibility Testing assistant mentioned elsewhere.

Cheers,

Jim.

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