Zhenbin Xu wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonas Sicking [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 2:38 PM
To: Sunava Dutta
Cc: Ian Hickson; Zhenbin Xu; [email protected]; IE8 Core AJAX SWAT
Team
Subject: Re: <New: Tracking Issues in XHR that we raised>RE: <Was:
Further LC Followup from IE> RE: Potential bugs identified in XHR LC
Test Suite

Sunava Dutta wrote:
Thanks Ian, Zhenbin for clarifying the issues and a continuing very
productive discussion.
Meanwhile, I'm summarizing some of our requests for the editor based
on issues we've had an opportunity to clarify...There are many
conversations going on and I'd hate to see points getting lost and
would like the specs/test cases updated for issues where discussions
are not ongoing.


-Ongoing discussion: Specify the parseError attributes for Document
Objects or specify this can be sent out of band. This could be
something we don't have to hold the XHR spec back for as long as we
make a note in the specification that this is pending. There are
people currently talking for and/or against it. Zhenbin is
articulating IE's point.
Sounds good to me. We have an informative "Not in this specification"
section already, sounds like a good idea to add there.

- Throwing exceptions on state violations is easier to understand and
we should change the spec to reflect this. (for the sake of a
consistent programming model). The spec should have INVALID_STATE_ERR
exception (the exact language can be worked out)  if a site is
expecting an exception and gets a null as this would not work if the
developer is trying to write a wrapper object in XHR. I haven't heard
any strong objection here or compelling argument against it that's
been sustained.
I do think there has been some disagreement here. Anne has commented on
reasons for returning null rather than throwing an exception, and I
think I agree with him. I think the correct cause of action here is to
raise an issue in the issue tracker.


[Zhenbin Xu] I am not familiar with the process here.  How does issue
gets resolved when it is in issue tracker?

Having it in the issue tracker just makes it easier to track since the issue tracker keeps track of all emails on the subject (if you put ISSUE XX in the subject).

We have enough debate already
that there is technical merit to throw exception rather than null. It is
not going to be productive for us to keep spending time on it.

I do agree we have debate, I don't agree we have agreement on that throwing an exception is the right thing to do.

The argument for returning null is that it makes for a cleaner API, exceptions should only be thrown in exceptional circumstances. And based on available data it doesn't seem like sites currently care one way or another, so I think we should go for the cleaner API.

What is the argument for throwing an exception?

/ Jonas

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