Great, thanks for the explanation.

- Bil


Adam Barth wrote on 4/11/2009 2:48 PM: 
> Ah, I see.  Yes.  The algorithm in Section 2 is designed to be
> re-usable in other specs.  For example, HTML 5 could reference this
> spec.  Implementations might need to have funny behaviors for things
> like file:// URLs.  Letting them return an implementation defined
> value here (and supporting it in Section 3) helps them do that.
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Bil Corry <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I wasn't clear, apologies.  I'm confused why Section 2 Step 3 requires the 
>> UA to return an implementation-defined value for Origin, then turn around 
>> and required it be sent as "null" when it's sent to the server (Section 4.2 
>> Step 1).  If it will be sent as "null", then why not just have Section 2 
>> Step 3 skip the implementation-defined value and instead set it to "null"?  
>> Or is there another use client-side for the implementation-defined value?
>>
>>
>> - Bil
>>
>>
>> Adam Barth wrote on 4/11/2009 11:46 AM:
>>> I don't understand what you're requesting.  The spec already says that
>>> in Section 4.2, step 1.  Requirement 1 of paragraph 3 of section 5 is
>>> to ensure that all POST requests (including those generated by the
>>> browser itself) contain a sensible Origin header.
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 5:27 AM, Bil Corry <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> But if it never gets sent to the server, is there some other purpose for a 
>>>> UA to calculate the Origin string?  Couldn't the draft simply state that 
>>>> to calculate the Origin, if it isn't a (scheme, host, port) tuple, it's 
>>>> "null" since that's all that gets sent anyhow?
>>>>
>>>> - Bil
>>>>
>>>> Adam Barth wrote on 4/10/2009 1:01 PM:
>>>>> This is to support things like data URLs that can't be represented as
>>>>> a (scheme, host, port) tuple.
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Bil Corry <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> I wanted to clarify something in the IETF Origin draft[1], which is now 
>>>>>> going to serve as the basis for HTML5's Origin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Section 5 requires that when a user agent provides the Origin header, it 
>>>>>> must either send "null" or the ASCII serialization of the origin.  ASCII 
>>>>>> serialization (and Unicode serialization) stipulates that if an origin 
>>>>>> is not a scheme/host/port tuple, then it must return "null".  Section 2 
>>>>>> allows implementations to define other types of origins in addition to 
>>>>>> the scheme/host/port tuple.  So my question is, if a user agent defines 
>>>>>> another type of origin, but is required to send "null" for it in the 
>>>>>> Origin header, is there some other use for defining other types of 
>>>>>> origins?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Bil
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-abarth-origin-00.txt
>>>>>>
>>
> 
> 



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