Hi, Folks-
I will be hosting a F2F at my house next week, but we will be
reconvening the telcons week after next, probably on Wednesday, June 17
or Thursday, June 18. Either day works for me, but finding a good time
for everyone might be challenging: we typically have attendees from
Finland (Olli Pettay of Mozilla), from US West Coast (Travis Leithead
and Jacob ??, of Microsoft), US East Coast (myself, and sometimes some
government folks who are helping with testing), and now Sydney,
Australia (Dan Danilatos, of Google Wave). [1]
Olli says:
"For me the best days are Wednesday and Thursday, 10:00am-01:00am (EET).
Monday and Tuesday evenings/nights are also possible."
Travis says:
"Jacob and I are available for telecons 8-5 pm (perhaps a little
later if needed)."
Pretty much any time on Wednesday or Thursday works for me (late
afternoon is best). Looking at TimeAndDate [2], it looks like 21:00 UTC
on Wednesday might work, if Dan is a morning person (otherwise it would
be pretty cruel to him).
The proposed agenda is (what else?) mutation events and a sane keyboard
model. The telcon will last one hour. So, I would greatly appreciate
keeping up the email dialog on mutation events (I will compile the use
cases and requirements on the wiki, as they roll in). It may be that we
don't "solve" mutation events for DOM3 Events, but put together another
dedicated spec to address the use cases in another way, and caution
people about the costs of mutation events.
In addition, I'm hoping that we have a flowchart of keyboard event
models by that time, for both IE (Travis and Jacob are working on this),
and if possible, for WebKit. We have my rough draft of an idealized
model [3], and Olli's more accurate Gecko model [4].
Dan, or anyone on your team, or anyone at all, could you work on a
WebKit keyboard event model flowchart?
When I get them all, I'll normalize them for easy comparison, and we can
work to produce a unified model that works as widely as possible. If
anyone wants to send in addition flowcharts for other implementations
(including mobiles), that would also be welcome. I don't know that
we'll be able to solve the IME issues, but if we can, we will.
[1]
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?month=6&day=17&year=2009&p2=43&p3=101&p4=234&p5=240&iv=0
[2]
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=6&day=17&hour=21&min=0&sec=0&p1=43&p2=101&p3=234&p4=240
[3]
http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/proposals/d3e-keyflow.svg
[4]
http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/proposals/keyflow-gecko.svg
Regards-
-Doug Schepers
W3C Team Contact, SVG and WebApps WGs
