The draft minutes from the 10 September Widgets voice conference are available at the following and copied below:

 http://www.w3.org/2009/09/10-wam-minutes.html

WG Members - if you have any comments, corrections, etc., please send them to the public-webapps mail list before 17 September (the next Widgets voice conference); otherwise these minutes will be considered Approved.

-Regards, Art Barstow

   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

                               - DRAFT -

                       Widgets Voice Conference

10 Sep 2009

   [2]Agenda

[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/ 2009JulSep/1019.html

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2009/09/10-wam-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Art, Jere, Arve, Marcos, Frederick, Josh

   Regrets
          Robin

   Chair
          Art

   Scribe
          Art

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]Review and tweak agenda
         2. [6]Announcements
         3. [7]P&C spec: IRI/URI normalization
         4. [8]widget Interface (fka A&E) spec:
         5. [9]WARP Spec: Last Call
         6. [10]URI Scheme spec
         7. [11]View Modes Media Feature spec
         8. [12]AOB
     * [13]Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________



   <scribe> ScribeNick: ArtB

   <scribe> Scribe: Art

   Date: 10 September 2009

Review and tweak agenda

   AB: the agenda was posted on September 9 (
   [14]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009JulSep/10
   19.html ). Any change requests?

[14] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/ 2009JulSep/1019.html

   [ None ]

Announcements

   AB: Reminders on upcoming deadlines: 1) Sep 14 is deadline to
   register for Widgets Testing event (
   [15]http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/TestWorkshop2009 ); 2) Sep
   15 comment deadline for APIs and Events LCWD; 3) Sep 20 comment
   deadline for WARP LCWD
   ... Does anyone have any other short announcements?

     [15] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/TestWorkshop2009

   [ None ]

P&C spec: IRI/URI normalization

   AB: I haven't seen a response from the I18N Core WG regarding
   Marcin's August 14 email to them (
   [16]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009JulSep/06
   44.html ). On Sept 4 I asked Addison and Richard for an update (
   [17]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-archive/2009Sep/0029.htm
   l ) and I haven't received a reply.
   ... Marcos and Marcin - you two have been exchanging emails on this
   subject. What's the status?

[16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/ 2009JulSep/0644.html [17] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-archive/2009Sep/ 0029.html

   MC: I think the status is we don't need to do anything
   ... we treat the strings as opaque
   ... I don't think the P+C spec needs to change
   ... we do NOT need to normalize the strings

   AB: thanks for the update Marcos
   ... without Marcin here today, I think we should stop discussion on
   this topic
   ... we will wait for Marcin to respond to MC's latest email

   MC: we can followup on line if need be

widget Interface (fka A&E) spec:

   AB: comments for the 18-Aug-2009 A&E LCWD (
   [18]http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-widgets-apis-20090818/ ) are due
   September 15. The comment tracking document is (
   [19]http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/42538/WD-widgets-a
   pis-20090818/ ).
   ... is there something to discuss today?

     [18] http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-widgets-apis-20090818/
[19] http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/42538/WD- widgets-apis-20090818/

   MC: thanks Art for the comments; I'll address them as soon as I can

   AB: those are my comments
   ... anything else on Widget Interface?

   [ No ]

WARP Spec: Last Call

   AB: comments for the 4-Aug-2009 WARP LCWD (
   [20]http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-widgets-access-20090804/ ) are due
   September 20. The comment tracking document is (
   [21]http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/42538/WD-widgets-a
   ccess-20090804/ ).
   ... Marcin's August 27 comments (
   [22]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009JulSep/08
   44.html ) resulted in some exchanges from Marcos.
   ... if I understand this thread correctly, Marcin wants to eliminate
   the <access> element and modify the <feature> element to take on
   some of the semantics that is currently defined in the WARP spec. Is
   this correct?

     [20] http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-widgets-access-20090804/
[21] http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/42538/WD- widgets-access-20090804/ [22] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/ 2009JulSep/0844.html

   MC: yes, that is correct

   AB: if we were to accept this proposal, it would result in the P&C
   Candidate needing to go back to WD, right?

   MC: no, I don't think that is true
   ... he doesn't propose any changes to <feature>

   AB: I thought he proposed a new attribute for <feature>?

   MC: no, I don't think so
   ... I just don't agree with the proposal

   AB: yes, that came through on the email exchange

   Arve: I also do not agree with the proposal

   FH: I also agree; I think <feature> and <access> are orthogonal i.e.
   have different meanings

   AB: since Marcin isn't here let's stop discussion now and continue
   on the public-webapps mail list

URI Scheme spec

   AB: right before our September 3 call, Marcos submitted comments
   about the URI Scheme spec (
   [23]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009JulSep/09
   63.html ). The consensus at that call was to delay the LCWD
   publication until Robin had addressed MC's comments (
   [24]http://www.w3.org/2009/09/03-wam-minutes.html#item09 ).
   ... Robin told me today he has not yet addressed MC's comments but
   will do soon. We will not discuss "is this spec ready for Last Call"
   until we have a chance to review a version of the spec that reflects
   MC's comments.
   ... any feedback or concerns?

[23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/ 2009JulSep/0963.html
     [24] http://www.w3.org/2009/09/03-wam-minutes.html#item09

   [ No ]

View Modes Media Feature spec

   AB: Marcin has now split the spec into two parts: View Modes Media
   Features (
   [25]http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-vm/vm-mediafeature.src.html )
   and View Modes Interfaces (
   [26]http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-vm/vm-interfaces.src.html ).
   Thanks Marcin!
   ... I think the priority is to publish a First Public WD of the View
   Modes Media Feature spec. Marcin, what needs to be done before we
   are ready for the FPWD of the VMMF spec?
   ... given Marcin, isn't here we won't have that discussion today

[25] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-vm/vm- mediafeature.src.html
     [26] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-vm/vm-interfaces.src.html

   <scribe> ACTION: marcin create a ToDo list for the FPWD of the View
   Modes Media Feature spec [recorded in
   [27]http://www.w3.org/2009/09/10-wam-minutes.html#action01]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-405 - Create a ToDo list for the FPWD of
   the View Modes Media Feature spec [on Marcin Hanclik - due
   2009-09-17].

   AB: anything else on this spec for today?

   [ No ]

AOB

   AB: I don't have anything; does anyone?

   [ No ]

   AB: next VC will be September 17; this meeting is adjourned

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: marcin create a ToDo list for the FPWD of the View
   Modes Media Feature spec [recorded in
   [28]http://www.w3.org/2009/09/10-wam-minutes.html#action01]

   [End of minutes]


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