All - FYI, I think the next steps here are to hash out some process related issues so I started a related discussion on the public- hypertext-cg mail list:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-hypertext-cg/2010AprJun/ 0001.html

-Art Barstow


On Apr 12, 2010, at 4:12 PM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote:


On Apr 12, 2010, at 8:50 PM, Simon Fraser <s...@me.com> wrote:


On Apr 12, 2010, at 2:25 AM, Marcos Caceres wrote:

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Marcos Caceres <marc...@opera.com>
wrote:
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Simon Fraser <s...@me.com> wrote:
On Mar 18, 2010, at 6:44 AM, Marcos Caceres wrote:

4. all these queries could/should have an event-based
counterpart so the
 changes are detectable by code. We understand this is outside
of the
 scope of this spec but that's still an important comment.

We have a proposal already for the CSS WG to review:
http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-vm/vm-interfaces.src.html

It seems like this needs to align to the current CSS OM View spec:
<http://dev.w3.org/csswg/cssom-view/>

which has a StyleMedia interface available on the window object
as 'styleMedia', rather than 'media'.

I would expect to see events related to media type changes in the
CSS OM View spec too, rather than in a widgets-related spec.

I totally agree, there is much overlap. We should start looking at
how
to merge the two specs (or our requirements) into the CSS OM View
spec. I would be happy for the widgets one to vanish if the CSS OM
View spec would handled our use cases.

Perhaps we should have a joint teleconf or something to arrange
how to
proceed...  I'll leave that up to the chairs, however.

To make Widget View Modes Interfaces [1] redundant, we would like to
propose extending CSSOM Views' matchMedium method to have a callback
as a second argument.

This would address the following sections of [1] in the following
ways:

# 3.2. Media Type Changed Event Types
styleMedia.matchMedium("screen", function() { alert("no
longer screen!") })

# 3.3. View Mode Changed Event Types
styleMedia.matchMedium("(viewmodesyntax)", ... )

# 3.4. Resolution Changed Event Types
styleMedia.matchMedium("(resolution:300dpi)", ... )

# 3.5. Orientation Changed Event Types
styleMedia.matchMedium("(orientation:landscape)", ... )

The proposal has it's origins on the Mozilla bug list (see comment
from David Baron):
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=542058#c3

This is overlapping with ViewModeChanged events:
<http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-vm/vm- interfaces.src.html#viewmodechangedeventtypes


Do we really need both?


No, we don't need both. To be clear, we want to kill off  vm-
interfaces.src.html in favor of CSSOM Views (as we have shown that it
does more or less what we need).

Kind regards,
Marcos


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