The draft minutes from the April 15 Widgets voice conference are available at the following and copied below:

 http://www.w3.org/2010/04/15-wam-minutes.html

WG Members - if you have any comments, corrections, etc., please send them to the public-webapps mail list before April 22 (the next Widgets voice conference); otherwise these minutes will be considered Approved.

-Regards, Art Barstow

   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

                               - DRAFT -

                       Widgets Voice Conference

15 Apr 2010

   [2]Agenda

[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/ 2010AprJun/0124.html

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2010/04/15-wam-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Art, Josh, StevenP, Frederick, Frederick_Hirsch, Robin, Arve

   Regrets
          Marcos, Bryan

   Chair
          Art

   Scribe
          Art

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]Review and tweak agenda
         2. [6]Announcements
         3. [7]View Modes Media Features spec
         4. [8]View Modes Interfaces spec
         5. [9]AoB
     * [10]Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________

   <scribe> Scribe: Art

   <scribe> ScribeNick: ArtB

Review and tweak agenda

   AB: the draft agenda was submitted yesterday (
   [11]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010AprJun/01
   24.html ). Any requests for changes?

[11] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/ 2010AprJun/0124.html

   [ None ]

Announcements

   AB: I have two; first is that Widget Updates WD was published April
   13 ( [12]http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-widgets-updates-20100413/ )
   ... 2nd is that Digital Signatures for Widgets LC will be published
   today; May 6 is deadline for comments
   ... any other annoucements?

     [12] http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-widgets-updates-20100413/

View Modes Media Features spec

   AB: Robin has responded to all of the pre-LC comments and updated
   the ED accordingly ( [13]http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-vmmf/ ).
   As such, I think the spec is ready for LC publication. Any comments?
   ... proposed RESOLUTION: the group agrees the View Modes Media
   Features spec is ready for LC publication
   ... any comments or objections?
   ... any voices of support?
   ... I support this spec moving to LC

     [13] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-vmmf/

   RB: I support this

   RESOLUTION: the group agrees the View Modes Media Features spec is
   ready for LC publication

   AB: Marcos told me offline that he support LC of this spec
   ... re which WGs we should ask to review, are there any groups other
   than CSS WG?
   ... does anyone know about BONDI?

   RB: don't know but we can ask

   AB: I will include BONDI in the list of review groups
   ... re the review period length, the minimum is 3 weeks but since
   this is the first LC and we want review from others, I think 4 weeks
   would be the minimum.

   <darobin> +1

   SP: this is an HCG area
   ... should ask them and adjust the time accordingly

   AB: I'm OK but don't want it to be too openended

   SP: right, so ask them something like "is 4 weeks OK?"

   AB: that's OK with me

   <Steven> How many pages is it?

   AB: is 4 a good number or do we need it longer

   RB: I think 4 is fine since it is a smallish spec and CSS WG already
   reviewed it once

   AB: good points
   ... I'll use 4 weeks in my proposal to HCG

   <Steven> In that case 4 weeks will be fine

   RB: it's about 5 pages including all of the boilerplate stuff

   <scribe> ACTION: berjon notify Art when the VMMF LC is ready for a
   publication request [recorded in
   [14]http://www.w3.org/2010/04/15-wam-minutes.html#action01]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-524 - Notify Art when the VMMF LC is ready
   for a publication request [on Robin Berjon - due 2010-04-22].

   RB: OK, but we need agreement on the short name

   AB: good point
   ... so now it is widgets-vmmf?

   RB: right

   AB: one option is vmmf, another is view-mode
   ... I am mostly indifferent

   SP: something that is readable is good

   AB: how about view-mode?

   RB: OK

   <darobin> view-modes

   RB: use view-modes
   ... no, make that "view-mode"

   AB: any objections to "view-mode"

   <timeless> what's the reason for singular?

   RB: want singular because media feature in CSS is singular

   JS: OK

   AB: let's consider that agreed "view-mode"

   <scribe> ACTION: barstow submit TransReq for VMMF LC and ask groups
   to review it; use "view-mode" as new shortname [recorded in
   [15]http://www.w3.org/2010/04/15-wam-minutes.html#action02]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-525 - Submit TransReq for VMMF LC and ask
   groups to review it; use "view-mode" as new shortname [on Arthur
   Barstow - due 2010-04-22].

View Modes Interfaces spec

   AB: earlier this week Anne van Kestern (the Editor of the CSSOM
   spec) asked us for "use case example" for the CSSOM spec
   ([16]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010AprJun/0
   105.html ). Consider this a request for *everyone* to submit use
   case examples.
   ... this is a reasonable request and we should submit use cases as
   soon as we can
   ... one process related issue here is the mail list to use:
   www-style, public-webapps or cross-post. I generally don't like
   cross-posting but think that's appropriate ATM since currently there
   isn't yet agreement on the work split with the CSS WG.
   ... going forward www-style will be used for CSSOM discussions since
   the precedence is already set
   ... Marcos made a proposal re CSSOM's stlyeMedia.matchMedium usage (
   [17]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010AprJun/00
   71.html ). There has been some follow-up.
   ... anything today on this?

[16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/ 2010AprJun/0105.html [17] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/ 2010AprJun/0071.html

   RB: think we should continue to hash this out on the list

   AB: I agree with that

   <darobin> +1

   AB: we do loose some control if our use cases are addressed by a CSS
   WG spec
   ... but they have the right expertise so I think this is good
   ... any concerns?

   [ No concerns raised ]

   AB: this gives us all the continued action to work with AvK and the
   CSS WG
   ... anything else on VM Interfaces for today?
   ... I don't know if we will have anything left in the VM-I spec

   RB: that's good

   AB: agree

AoB

   AB: anything else for today?
   ... thanks Robin for following up on the URI scheme disussions

   RB: sure; hopefully we can close that soon

   AB: next call is April 22; there will not be a call on April 29
   ... meeting adjourned

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: barstow submit TransReq for VMMF LC and ask groups to
   review it; use "view-mode" as new shortname [recorded in
   [18]http://www.w3.org/2010/04/15-wam-minutes.html#action02]
   [NEW] ACTION: berjon notify Art when the VMMF LC is ready for a
   publication request [recorded in
   [19]http://www.w3.org/2010/04/15-wam-minutes.html#action01]

   [End of minutes]



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