On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Robin Berjon <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> your comments reach us right after the WG decided to take the specification 
> to CR, but thankfully I was a bit slow with the editing so that we could take 
> them into account :)
>
> On May 27, 2010, at 22:42 , Jim Allan wrote:
>> View-mode: fullscreen. It is not clear whether fullscreen includes a full
>> set of chrome, or includes no chrome.  You mention 'chrome' in the
>> 'windowed' and 'floating' viewmodes. For consistency, chrome presence should
>> be noted in fullscreen.
>
> That's correct, I've now clarified this by adding a mention of chrome for 
> both fullscreen and maximized.
>
>> It should be noted that the User Agent Accessibility Guidelines 2.0 [1] has
>> success criteria that allow the user to override author settings for a
>> variety of viewport view-modes including the inclusion/exclusion of
>> 'chrome.'
>
> Yes, and that's fine. The idea here is that the UA would make a best effort 
> at matching the intent in a way that makes sense rather than be ultra strict. 
> For instance, if the app goes fullscreen but keeps a teeny bit of chrome (at 
> user option or not) to make it easier to exit fullscreen, then matching the 
> view-mode: fullscreen media query is quite clearly the right thing to do.
>
>> Please consider including a statement such as
>> "The user agent *must* display the view-modes in a manner that meets the
>> accessibility guidelines of UAAG20. "
>
> As much as I'd like more UAs to support UAAG I don't think that this 
> requirement is appropriate here. The VM specification defines a technology 
> with a single purpose: "if the window in which the content is being rendered 
> is like this, then apply these CSS style rules". It does *not* define how a 
> UA ought to display an actual set of window states, it doesn't in fact even 
> require UAs to support all the view modes. I'd expect that an application 
> running on an iPhone would only support maximized and fullscreen — if it 
> applied different style rules for each, it would still be 100% conformant.
>

FWIW, I agree with Robin here.




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