Propose:

can implementors provide an update on their implementation status/plans?

Nikunj

On Nov 2, 2010, at 3:58 AM, Jeremy Orlow wrote:

> Great list!
> 
> I propose we start with the various keys issues (I think we can make a lot of 
> progress quickly and it's somewhat fresh on our minds), go to dynamic 
> transactions (mainly are we going to support them), and then go from there.
> 
> J
> 
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Pablo Castro <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> To hit the ground running on this, here is a consolidated list of issues 
> coming both from the thread below and various pending bugs/discussions we've 
> had. I picked an arbitrary order and grouping, feel free to tweak in any way.
> 
> - keys (arrays as keys, compound keys, general keypath restrictions)
> - index keys (arrays as keys, empty values, general keypath restrictions)
> - internationalization (collation specification, collation algorithm)
> - quotas (how do apps request more storage, is there a temp/permanent 
> distinction?)
> - error handling (propagation, relationship to window.error, db scoped event 
> handlers, errors vs return empty values)
> - blobs (be explicit about behavior of blobs in indexeddb objects)
> - transactions error modes (abort-on-unwind in error conditions; what happens 
> when user leaves the page with pending transactions?)
> - transactions isolation/concurrent aspects
> - transactions scopes (dynamic support)
> - synchronous api
> 
> Thanks
> -pablo
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Pablo Castro
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 10:39 PM
> To: Jeremy Orlow; Jonas Sicking
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: IndexedDB TPAC agenda
> 
> A few other items to add to the list to discuss tomorrow:
> 
> - Blobs support: have we discussed explicitly how things work when an object 
> has a blob (file, array, etc.) as one of its properties?
> - Close on collation and international support
> - How do applications request that they need more storage? And related to 
> this, at some point we discussed temporary vs permanent stores. Close on the 
> whole story of how space is managed.
> - Database-wide exception handlers
> 
> Looking forward to the discussion tomorrow.
> 
> -pablo
> 
> 
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Jeremy Orlow
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 1:34 PM
> To: Jonas Sicking
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: IndexedDB TPAC agenda
> 
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Jonas Sicking <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:13 AM, Jeremy Orlow <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Jonas Sicking <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 4:40 AM, Jeremy Orlow <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > What items should we try to cover during the f2f?
> >> > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Jonas Sicking <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > P.S. I'm happy to discuss all of this f2f tomorrow rather than over
> >> >> > email
> >> >> > now.
> >> >>
> >> >> Speaking of which, would be great to have an agenda. Some of the
> >> >> bigger items are:
> >> >>
> >> >> * Dynamic transactions
> >> >> * Arrays-as-keys
> >> >> * Arrays and indexes (what to do if the keyPath for an index evaluates
> >> >> to an array)
> >> >> * Synchronous API
> >> >
> >> > * Compound keys.
> >> > * What should be allowed in a keyPath.
> >>
> >> Aren't "compound keys" same as "arrays-as-keys"?
> >
> > Sorry, I meant to say compound indexes.
> > We've talked about using indexes in many different ways--including compound
> > indexes and allowing keys to include indexes.  I assumed you meant the
> > latter....?
> I'm lost as to what you're saying here. Could you elaborate? Are you
> saying "index" when you mean "array" anywhere?
> 
> oops.  Yes, I meant to say: "We've talked about using arrays in many 
> different ways--including compound indexes and allowing keys to include 
> arrays.  I assumed you meant the latter....?"
>  
> >> * What should happen if an index's keyPath points to a property which
> >> doesn't exist or which isn't a valid key-value? (same general topic as
> >> "arrays and indexes" above)
> >
> > We've talked about this several times.  It'd be great to settle on something
> > once and for all.
> Agreed.
> 
> >> * What happens if the user leaves a page in the middle of a
> >> transaction? (this might be nice to tackle since there'll be lots of
> >> relevant people in the room)
> >
> > I'm pretty sure this is simple: if there's an onsuccess/onerror handler that
> > has not yet fired (or we're in the middle of firing), then you abort the
> > transaction.  If not, the behavior is undefined (because there's no way the
> > app could have observed the difference anyway).  The aborting behavior is
> > necessary since the user could have planned to execute additional commands
> > atomically in the handler.
> There is also the option to let the transaction finish. They should be
> short-lived so it shouldn't be too bad.
> 
> I.e. keep the page alive for a bit longer in the background or something that 
> blocks page unload?  Is there precedent for this elsewhere?  This sounds 
> pretty complicated to get right both in terms of implementation and speccing. 
>  Let's chat about it though.
>  
> >> * Error handling
> >
> > What do you mean by this?
> How to handle exceptions in various places. Where (error) events
> propagate. How does it relate to window.onerror. What happens if you
> do/don't call preventDefault on the error event?
> 
> 
> Sounds good.
> 
> 
> 

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