On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Ryosuke Niwa <rn...@apple.com> wrote:
> On Oct 16, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Hajime Morrita <morr...@google.com> wrote: > > D. "H[ello Shado]w World" - selection spans outside to inside. > > > Suppose we allowed this selection. Then how does one go about pasting this > content elsewhere? > > Most likely, whatever other content editable area, mail client, or some > random app (e.g. MS Word) into which the user is going to paste wouldn’t > support shadow DOM and most certainly wouldn’t have the component the > original page happened to have. > We have to define how Range.cloneContents() or extractContents() works against shadow-selecting range, assuming selection is built on top of DOM Range. This doesn't seem that complicated. As cloned element drops its shadow, these range-generated nodes won't have shadow either. > > Or are you suggesting to copy/serialize the composed “DOM" tree? > > No, it's same as copying on document tree we have today. Only difference is that its tree scope is ShadowRoot instead of Document. I don't think this difference is significant. Actually, <textarea> can be (and is) implemented on top of UA shadow DOM. What we need is a way to explain this. > What unclear for me is: > > - For case of C, should we consider "Shadow" being selected? Naively > thinking yes, but the implication isn't that clear. > > - Should we have a way to forbid B to ensure the selection atomicity? > Probably yes, but I don't think we have one. The spec could clarify this > point. My feeling is that this is tangential to Shadow DOM and is more > about generic "selection atomicity" concept. It could be covered by a CSS > property for example. > > > Doesn't -moz-user-select/-ms-user-select: element do that already? > Oh right. This is exactly what I wanted. Thanks for pointing this out! > > On Oct 16, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Jonas Sicking <jo...@sicking.cc> wrote: > > On Oct 16, 2013 8:04 PM, "Ryosuke Niwa" <rn...@apple.com> wrote: > > In that case, the entire "Note" will be selected as an atomic unit. Is > there a use case in which you want to select a part of "Note" and a part of > "Text here"? > > What if the text "Note" was longer? Is there ever a use case for selecting > part of a word? If not, why does all browsers allow it? > > Then the user can select a part of “Long Note Title”. > > - R. Niwa > > -- morrita
