On 4/8/14 2:22 PM, ext Hallvord R. M. Steen wrote:
So - regarding the

short status, plans, expectations and such for your spec(s).
Some details are still being discussed with implementors (special thanks to Ben 
Peters at Microsoft for bringing up issues recently). In particular, it's still 
somewhat under-defined how to copy / expose to paste listeners HTML source with 
styling. IMO that's a real blocker which has come up recently and should be 
dealt with.

Apart from that:

* I should investigate if I can throw out the recently added "semi-trusted" 
events concept again and just reference something usable - Anne pointed out something.
* clearData(mimeType) has seen some pushback, it's unclear if it can be implemented 
correctly in a nice, cross-platform way. I don't really mind dropping it, so I guess I 
should classify it as "at risk"
* It's also an open issue whether this spec should describe the safety measures some 
browsers implement if you paste markup that is *not* handled by any event listeners. 
(Some browsers remove stuff like javascript: URLs from HREF attributes and drop 
onfoo="" event listener attributes.) I think it's a bit outside of the scope of 
a spec describing the *JavaScript* API, but on the other hand it's not described anywhere 
else AFAIK. Perhaps you could discuss this at the meeting and give me some feedback?

All in all, I guess I should also try to find some time to run the tests (they 
are not consistently automated yet, since it's quite complicated to automate 
everything here) and get a better overview of the implementation state. The 
spec is based on current implementations but firstly they are often 
inconsistent and secondly the spec has changed a few things in response to 
feedback and miscellaneous pondering, so there are certainly bits that 
implementors need to review and catch up with. (Some of these issues have dodgy 
interactions with for example UI elements' enabled states, so implementors may 
be a bit hesitant to change.)

Thanks for this information Hallvord!

Re discussing this spec at this week's f2f meeting, ideally, you should join us (via IRC and/or voice conf; see [logistics]). If you can't make it, then it might be most efficient to continue to use the list and Bugzilla.

Re testing, with the hope someone might be able to help, perhaps it would be useful if you identified some of the open tasks. For example, IIUC, the tests are still in CVS and there are no PRs to move them to Github (nor has there been any `broad` review). If someone wants to help with this test suite, please let us know.

-Thanks, AB

[logistics] <https://www.w3.org/wiki/Webapps/April2014Meeting#Meeting_Logistics>




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