On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 16:57:00 +0200, Domenic Denicola <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Steve, thanks greatly for your help. It's clear now that I should have reached out to you for your expertise directly before being very wrong on a public mailing list :)

From: Steve Faulkner <[email protected]>

It appears (please correct me) you have made the assumption that 'strong native semantics' for roles is a UA requirement? This is not the case (in the W3C HTML spec [1] at least, can't speak for where the WHATWG spec has gone in defining ARIA in HTML), they are author conformance requirements.

Yes, I was misled about that pretty badly. That changes things, as it means there are no non-overridable roles or stoperties (as you show with <hr role="menuitem">).

States and properties can be non-overridable, though, as I understand it.

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When a host language declares a WAI-ARIA [state/property] attribute to be in direct semantic conflict with a native attribute for a given element, user agents MUST ignore the WAI-ARIA attribute and instead use the host language attribute with the same implicit semantic.
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http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/host_languages#host_general_conflict_header

From my reading though, the default implicit ARIA semantics are still UA requirements, right?

Yes.

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Opera Software

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