> On 2 Sep 2016, at 6:21 PM, Jeremy Rowley <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Then I suppose I don't understand the objection. The subdomain will always be 
> a random value provided by the CA. This is distinguishable from the case of 
> .well-known. Are you suggesting there should be a DNS record similar to 
> well-known? That would be a happy resolution for me. 
> <rnd>.pki_validation.domain.com?

My point is that you can’t just say “this person could create a randomly named 
subdomain, therefore he must control the domain”, because there are known 
examples of domains where anyone can create a named subdomain if it’s not 
already taken.

I’m not making a suggestion for a solution because I don’t have a good one.  As 
far as I know there is not a DNS equivalent of /.well-known.  A solution would 
have to either be something that by chance already works, or would have to wait 
to be adopted by all affected domains.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 7:15 PM
> To: Jeremy Rowley <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [cabfpub] CNAME-based validation
> 
> Yes, in this case the random value is represented as ‘1023456789ABCDEF’.
> 
>> On 2 Sep. 2016, at 5:38 pm, Jeremy Rowley <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> In this case it must be a random value provided by the ca that is then used 
>> to create the sub domain. It must follow all other rules related to random 
>> values (valid only for 30 days, unique per message,etc)
>> 
>> On Sep 2, 2016, at 5:19 PM, Geoff Keating <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2 Sep. 2016, at 2:26 pm, Jeremy Rowley <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I realized after reviewing my proposal that it will require a new method 
>>>> under the domain validation section. Therefore, I’m proposing we add the 
>>>> following as a new permitted method for domain validation:
>>>> 
>>>> Add the following as Section 3.2.2.4.11:
>>>> 
>>>> Confirming the Applicant’s control over the requested FQDN by appending a 
>>>> Random Value or Request Token as a sub domain to an Authorization Domain 
>>>> Name and pointing the CNAME record of the created sub domain to a FQDN 
>>>> verified by the CA using one of methods permitted under Section 3.2.2.4
>>>> 
>>>> Looking for two endorsers.
>>> 
>>> I would be concerned about this for the case of domains that allow 
>>> user-created subdomains.  For example, if the CA says I need to create 
>>> 1023456789ABCDEF.github.com, I can probably just go do that.  We dealt with 
>>> this for web sites by requiring they’d be under /.well-known.
>>> 
> 

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