Why would you consider it a bad security design? It’s just an SSL cert with an 
otherName included. There’s really nothing else that differentiates them.  

 

From: Ryan Sleevi [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 12:43 PM
To: Jeremy Rowley <[email protected]>
Cc: CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 184: rfc822Names and otherNames

 

 

 

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Jeremy Rowley <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:


3)     The browsers are part of the HotSpot program. The WFA membership 
includes Apple, Microsoft, and Google.  As Ryan points out, the representatives 
are not necessarily the same, but, nevertheless, browsers are interested in the 
project. This group should provide browsers with the option of reusing their 
trust store as part of the program (Erwann pointed out that Microsoft has 
already done this). Forcing browsers to have two separate trust stores on the 
same platform doesn’t make much sense where the two programs are essentially 
compatible minus a few points.

I'm sorry, this is simply not articulated as to why browsers care.

 

More concretely: You've not demonstrated why there is a need for a second trust 
store at all. If Starbucks wants to run a captive portal, it can and should use 
a publicly trusted CA cert to the captive portal (e.g. 
https://captive.starbuckswifi.com ). It shouldn't create a 'shadow trust store' 
for captive portal signin pages (as the WFA has done), and there's zero 
incentive to browsers to support that.

 

4)     Allowing WFA otherNames invites interoperability from other groups. I 
think showing the public that this group is willing to interoperate with the 
WFA invites other groups to bring their use cases forward and see whether we 
can accommodate them. I’d rather know the various ways people would like to use 
public trust than have everyone assume the public trust industry is impossible 
to work with.

I would rather we resolve the many governance issues first, since we have 
repeatedly made clear that's a precondition to expanding the scope of the 
Forums' activities.

 

As it stands, I think we'd be fairly opposed to both the rfc822Name proposal 
and the WFA proposal. SRVNames are and remain a good idea, but rfc822Name has 
significant interoperability and legacy concerns, and the WFA stuff is just... 
bad security design.

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