Current contractual obligations may be a prepaid service to perform certificate 
management services and license a Subscriber to issue X number of certificates 
(say 5, 10, 100, 500, 1000, ...) over a specific period of time (say 1, 2, 3 
years ...). Creation or a change to the CAA record with a hard-fail could stop 
the CA from fulfilling their obligation.

Anti-competitive behavior is an error case which I think should be planned for 
in the policy design. I am not sure how we can provide evidence to strongly 
prove a future error case. I don't believe that we are allowed to discuss 
possible incentives or benefits which a Subscriber could be provided by 
restricting the CAA record to a specific CA. 

I am not looking for CA processes to decide whether to check a CAA record. I am 
looking to use the current methods which we have defined in the BRs and EV 
guidelines to permit a CA to issue a certificate. I am also looking for 
escalation processes using defined terms and requirements from the BRs and EV 
guidelines to allow an Applicant or Subscriber to request and authenticate the 
issuance of a certificate.

Thanks, Bruce.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gervase Markham [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 9:57 AM
To: CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <[email protected]>; Doug Beattie 
<[email protected]>
Cc: Bruce Morton <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [cabfpub] Draft CAA motion (4)

On 25/01/17 14:36, Bruce Morton via Public wrote:
> The issue with a CAA hard-fail for all circumstances is that it could 
> impact current obligations for certificate issuance and management

You mean current contractual obligations? It would help if you gave a sample 
contract clause you think is incompatible with CAA checking.

> and
> it is anti-competitive. 

This assertion continues to be made with no evidence; this is why the motion 
strongly suggests that CAs gather such evidence. In the mean time, the 
suggestion is FUD.

> What I don’t understand is why there are objections to a proposed 
> solution without trying to provide an alternative.

I don't know how many more ways I can explain why leaving it up to the CA's 
processes as to whether to check CAA is not acceptable. I hope other members of 
the list will bear witness that I've had at least two or three goes.

Gerv
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