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From:Ryan Sleevi via Public<[email protected]>
To:Geoff Keating<[email protected]>
Cc:Ryan Sleevi<[email protected]>,CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion 
List<[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2017 09:37:51
Subject: Re: [cabfpub] Draft Ballot 185 - Limiting the Lifetime of Certificates


On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Geoff Keating <[email protected]> wrote:
Weren’t most of the long-lived certificates that caused problems those issued 
before the current limit of ~3 years?  

Nope, not in our experience. I'm hoping Jody can share his graph, but much of 
our 'breakage' experience was from sites where the CA waited to stop issuing 
SHA-1 certs until it was explicitly forbidden - that is, they did not even 
default to SHA-256, or made it considerably *more* difficult for their 
customers to obtain SHA-256 signed certs

===>
Ryan, You said you hope Jody can share his graph. Do you mean the discussion in 
last Fall Redmond F2F meeting as the minute below in Mozilla's news section?
https://cabforum.org/2016/10/19/2016-10-19-20-f2f-meeting-39-minutes/#Mozilla

Side note based on comments from Microsoft
•MS shows 20M sites with SHA-1 where as FF counts traffic
•Why do this now vs. waiting a year, that’s the rush?
•Wants to work with other browsers on timing. Google might have different pain 
thresholds. Goal is to figure out we get proper user feedback and that 
stakeholders are not screaming.


The no-SHA-1 requirement came in force January 2016 - not 2015. We passed the 
Ballot in 2015, following Microsoft's announced deprecation in Nov 12, 2013 - 
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/security/2880823.aspx

==>
The SHA-1 sunset ballot was passed on 16 October 2014, not 2015. 
Please see 
https://cabforum.org/2014/10/16/ballot-118-sha-1-sunset/ 

I think most CAs offer their cusomers to migrate SHA-1 SSL certificates to SHA 
256 SSL certificates for free. Try their best to call out and e-mail to the 
customers to encourage them.   

Sincerely Yours,

      Li-Chun Chen
     Chunghwa Telecom Co. Ltd.



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