> On Feb 23, 2017, at 10:40 PM, Ryan Sleevi <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 7:04 PM, [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> If we are to lead, how about doing the obvious and setting a date by which 
> servers and browsers are advised to provide support for SHA-3?
> 
> Hi Phillip,
> 
> Could you point me to any IETF documents that describe or specify how CAs 
> would generate such signatures?
> 
> And can you point me to any HSM vendors that CAs might use to ensure that 
> their private keys are appropriately protected when generating these 
> signatures?
> 
> I look forward to engaging with you on how we can move the industry forward, 
> and I look forward to opportunities to learn about what efforts Comodo has 
> put forward in this space, as well as opportunities for how we as a Forum can 
> work together to address the necessary and obvious concerns before discussing 
> dates.

I did try to get SHA-3 added to the CURDLE working group work items. And I was 
told that nobody was asking for it. 

Things have to break before some people will act. Which is why I consider the 
proposal to further reduce validity intervals to provide more procrastination 
time positively harmful. The SHA-2 transition took a decade. We could have 
started five years earlier.

SHA-2 is a direct swap for SHA-3 however. All that is required is to define the 
necessary OIDs. And the CURDLE charter does not preclude SHA-3, it merely does 
not list them as current work items.

If we are going to judge proposals by the number of other industry players who 
support them, where does a proposal that only garners support of one other 
browser and one CA stand? 

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