Chris, Ben and Wayne,

This is an excellent solution to the conundrum the Forum was facing.  Thank you 
for your open-mindedness and flexibility.   


Best regards,

Virginia Fournier
Senior Standards Counsel
 Apple Inc.
☏ 669-227-9595
✉︎ [email protected]






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  1. Withdrawal of Resubmitted Ballot 194 (Kirk Hall)


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From: Kirk Hall <[email protected]>
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Subject: [cabfpub] Withdrawal of Resubmitted Ballot 194
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Resubmitted Ballot 194 is hereby withdrawn.  See new Ballot 197 instead.
From: Public [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kirk Hall via 
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Subject: [EXTERNAL][cabfpub] Resubmitting Ballot 194 -  Effective Date of 
Ballot 193 Provisions

In an effort to help us move on, the proposer and two endorsers are 
resubmitting Ballot 194 so we can get to a new voting period and eliminate all 
disputes.  In accordance with your Bylaws the (new) seven day discussion period 
begins today, and the (new) seven day voting period will start April 26 at end 
May 3, all at 22:00 UTC.  No substantive changes have been made to the text of 
the ballot itself.

Ballot 194 ? Effective Date of Ballot 193 Provisions (resubmitted 19 April 2017)

Purpose of Ballot: This ballot was previously submitted on April 2, 2017 and 
completed its voting period on April 16, 2017.  There was a difference of 
opinion among some members as to whether the Ballot was or was not approved.  
For this reason, Ballot 194 is being resubmitted by the same proposer and 
endorsers to begin a new seven day discussion period and a new seven day voting 
period which will supersede the prior voting period and results.

Recent Ballot 193 reduced the maximum period for certificates and for reuse of 
vetting data for DV and OV certificates from 39 months to 825 days.  The 
effective date for reducing the maximum validity period of certificates was 
specified as March 1, 2018, but no effective date was specified for when the 
reduction of the maximum period for reuse of vetting data becomes effective.

It was the intention of the authors of Ballot 193 that the effective date for 
reducing the maximum period for reuse of vetting data under BR 4.2.1 would also 
be March 1, 2018.  This ballot is intended to clarify that intention.  The 
ballot also makes these changes retroactive to the effective date of Ballot 193 
so there is no gap period.

Ballot 193 is in the Review Period (which will end on April 22, 2017), and has 
not yet taken effect.  Bylaw 2.3 states that Ballots should include a ?redline 
or comparison showing the set of changes from the Final Guideline section(s) 
intended to become a Final Maintenance Guideline? and that ?[s]uch redline or 
comparison shall be made against the Final Guideline section(s) as they exist 
at the time a ballot is proposed?.

To avoid confusion, this Ballot will show the proposed changes to BR 4.2.1 will 
be presented two ways: (1) a comparison of the changes to BR 4.2.1 as it 
existed before Ballot 193 (which is as BR 4.2.1 exists at this time this ballot 
is proposed), and also (2) a comparison of the changes to BR 4.2.1 as it will 
exist after the Review Period for Ballot 193 is completed (assuming no 
Exclusion Notices are filed).

The following motion has been proposed by Chris Bailey of Entrust Datacard and 
endorsed by Ben Wilson of DigiCert, and Wayne Thayer of GoDaddy to introduce 
new Final Maintenance Guidelines for the "Baseline Requirements Certificate 
Policy for the Issuance and Management of Publicly-Trusted Certificates" 
(Baseline Requirements) and the "Guidelines for the Issuance and Management of 
Extended Validation Certificates" (EV Guidelines).

-- MOTION BEGINS --

Ballot Section 1

BR 4.2.1 is amended to read as follows:

[Ballot amendments shown against BR 4.2.1 as it currently exists without the 
changes adopted in Ballot 193]

BR 4.2.1. Performing Identification and Authentication Functions

The certificate request MAY include all factual information about the Applicant 
to be included in the Certificate, and such additional information as is 
necessary for the CA to obtain from the Applicant in order to comply with these 
Requirements and the CA?s Certificate Policy and/or Certification Practice 
Statement. In cases where the certificate request does not contain all the 
necessary information about the Applicant, the CA SHALL obtain the remaining 
information from the Applicant or, having obtained it from a reliable, 
independent, third?party data source, confirm it with the Applicant. The CA 
SHALL establish and follow a documented procedure for verifying all data 
requested for inclusion in the Certificate by the Applicant.

Applicant information MUST include, but not be limited to, at least one 
Fully?Qualified Domain Name or IP address to be included in the Certificate?s 
SubjectAltName extension.

Section 6.3.2 limits the validity period of Subscriber Certificates. The CA MAY 
use the documents and data provided in Section 3.2 to verify certificate 
information, provided that: the CA obtained the data or document from a source 
specified under Section 3.2 no more than thirty?nine (39) months prior to 
issuing the Certificate.

(1) Prior to March 1, 2018, the CA obtained the data or document from a source 
specified under Section 3.2 no more than 39 months prior to issuing the 
Certificate; and

(2) On or after March 1, 2018, the CA obtained the data or document from a 
source specified under Section 3.2 no more than 825 days prior to issuing the 
Certificate.

The CA SHALL develop, maintain, and implement documented procedures that 
identify and require additional verification activity for High Risk Certificate 
Requests prior to the Certificate?s approval, as reasonably necessary to ensure 
that such requests are properly verified under these Requirements.

If a Delegated Third Party fulfills any of the CA?s obligations under this 
section, the CA SHALL verify that the process used by the Delegated Third Party 
to identify and further verify High Risk Certificate Requests provides at least 
the same level of assurance as the CA?s own processes.


[Ballot amendments shown against BR 4.2.1 as it existed after Ballot 193 was 
approved]

BR 4.2.1. Performing Identification and Authentication Functions

The certificate request MAY include all factual information about the Applicant 
to be included in the Certificate, and such additional information as is 
necessary for the CA to obtain from the Applicant in order to comply with these 
Requirements and the CA?s Certificate Policy and/or Certification Practice 
Statement. In cases where the certificate request does not contain all the 
necessary information about the Applicant, the CA SHALL obtain the remaining 
information from the Applicant or, having obtained it from a reliable, 
independent, third?party data source, confirm it with the Applicant. The CA 
SHALL establish and follow a documented procedure for verifying all data 
requested for inclusion in the Certificate by the Applicant.

Applicant information MUST include, but not be limited to, at least one 
Fully?Qualified Domain Name or IP address to be included in the Certificate?s 
SubjectAltName extension.

Section 6.3.2 limits the validity period of Subscriber Certificates. The CA MAY 
use the documents and data provided in Section 3.2 to verify certificate 
information, provided that: the CA obtained the data or document from a source 
specified under Section 3.2 no more than 825 days prior to issuing the 
Certificate.

(1) Prior to March 1, 2018, the CA obtained the data or document from a source 
specified under Section 3.2 no more than 39 months prior to issuing the 
Certificate; and

(2) On or after March 1, 2018, the CA obtained the data or document from a 
source specified under Section 3.2 no more than 825 days prior to issuing the 
Certificate.

The CA SHALL develop, maintain, and implement documented procedures that 
identify and require additional verification activity for High Risk Certificate 
Requests prior to the Certificate?s approval, as reasonably necessary to ensure 
that such requests are properly verified under these Requirements.

If a Delegated Third Party fulfills any of the CA?s obligations under this 
section, the CA SHALL verify that the process used by the Delegated Third Party 
to identify and further verify High Risk Certificate Requests provides at least 
the same level of assurance as the CA?s own processes.

Ballot Section 2

The provisions of Ballot Section 1 will be effective retroactive to the 
effective date of Ballot 193.


--Motion Ends--



The procedure for approval of this Final Maintenance Guideline ballot is as 
follows (exact start and end times may be adjusted to comply with applicable 
Bylaws and IPR Agreement):



BALLOT 194

Status: Final Maintenance Guideline


Start time (22:00 UTC)


End time (22:00 UTC)


Discussion (7 to 14 days)


April 19, 2017

April 26, 2017


Vote for approval (7 days)

April 26, 2017

May 3, 2017


If vote approves ballot: Review Period (Chair to send Review Notice) (30 days).

If Exclusion Notice(s) filed, ballot approval is rescinded and PAG to be 
created.

If no Exclusion Notices filed, ballot becomes effective at end of Review Period.

Upon filing of Review Notice by Chair

30 days after filing of Review Notice by Chair




From Bylaw 2.3: If the Draft Guideline Ballot is proposing a Final Maintenance 
Guideline, such ballot will include a redline or comparison showing the set of 
changes from the Final Guideline section(s) intended to become a Final 
Maintenance Guideline, and need not include a copy of the full set of 
guidelines.  Such redline or comparison shall be made against the Final 
Guideline section(s) as they exist at the time a ballot is proposed, and need 
not take into consideration other ballots that may be proposed subsequently, 
except as provided in Bylaw Section 2.3(j).



Votes must be cast by posting an on-list reply to this thread on the Public 
list.  A vote in favor of the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' in the 
response. A vote against must indicate a clear 'no' in the response. A vote to 
abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain' in the response. Unclear responses will 
not be counted. The latest vote received from any representative of a voting 
member before the close of the voting period will be counted. Voting members 
are listed here: https://cabforum.org/members/


In order for the motion to be adopted, two thirds or more of the votes cast by 
members in the CA category and greater than 50% of the votes cast by members in 
the browser category must be in favor.  Quorum is shown on CA/Browser Forum 
wiki.  Under Bylaw 2.2(g), at least the required quorum number must participate 
in the ballot for the ballot to be valid, either by voting in favor, voting 
against, or abstaining.


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