Gerv,

I would prefer to see this fixed concurrently with a clean up of Enterprise RA 
to make it very clear what we expect an Enterprise RA to be able to 
independently validate and what requirements they must meet.

Thanks,
Peter

> On Apr 20, 2017, at 9:39 AM, Gervase Markham via Public <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> This updates the section 8.4 change to use slightly clearer wording.
> 
> Can I get a couple of endorsers?
> 
> Gerv
> 
> Ballot XXX - Forbid DTPs from doing Domain/IP Ownership Validation
> Purpose of Ballot: At the moment, CAs are permitted to delegate the process 
> of domain and IP address validation. However, permitting such delegations is 
> problematic due to the way audits work - the auditing of such work may or may 
> not be required and, if it is, those audit documents may not make it back to 
> root programs for consideration. Although the audit situation also needs 
> fixing, domain validation is an important enough component of a CA's core 
> competencies that it seems wiser to remove it from the larger problem and 
> forbid its delegation. The purpose of this ballot is to ensure that CAs or 
> their Affiliates are always the ones performing domain/IP address ownership 
> validation for certificates that CA is responsible for.
> The following motion has been proposed by Gervase Markham of Mozilla and 
> endorsed by XXX of XXX and XXX of XXX:
> -- MOTION BEGINS --
> 1) In section 1.3.2 of the Baseline Requirements, replace the following 
> sentence:
> 
> "The CA MAY delegate the performance of all, or any part, of Section 3.2 
> requirements to a Delegated Third Party, provided that the process as a whole 
> fulfills all of the requirements of Section 3.2."
> 
> with:
> 
> "With the exception of sections 3.2.2.4 and 3.2.2.5, the CA MAY delegate the 
> performance of all, or any part, of Section 3.2 requirements to a Delegated 
> Third Party, provided that the process as a whole fulfills all of the 
> requirements of Section 3.2." 
> 
> 2) In sections 3.2.2.4 and 3.2.2.4.11 (if still present in the text at the 
> time the ballot passes), replace the following text:
> 
> "either the CA or a Delegated Third Party"
> 
> with:
> 
> "the CA"
> 
> 3) In section 3.2.2.4.6, remove the words "or Delegated Third Party".
> 
> 4) In section 8.4, remove the paragraph beginning: "If a Delegated Third 
> Party is not currently audited...".
> 
> 5) In section 8.4, replace the following text:
> 
> "If the CA is not using one of the above procedures and the Delegated Third 
> Party is not an Enterprise RA, then"
> 
> with:
> 
> "For Delegated Third Parties which are not Enterprise RAs, ".
> 
> -- MOTION ENDS --
>  
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>  
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> Status: Final Maintenance Guideline
> Start time (23:00 UTC)
> End time (23:00 UTC)
> Discussion (7 to 14 days)
> XXX
> XXX
> 
> Vote for approval (7 days)
> XXX
> 
> XXX
> 
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> 
> 30 days after filing of Review Notice                   by Chair
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