That’s a good draft, and my one comment is, I think suspending a CA’s 
membership 15 months after the last audit reports is a little too tight.  As 
you know, new audit reports are not required until 15 months after the last 
report – so being one day late suspends membership.  Can’t you move it out a 
bit?  There could be adequate reasons why a CA doesn’t hit the 15 month 
deadline by a little bit.

Also – I’m not sure how the suspension for no audit provision actually gets 
enforced.  Right now, I have no idea if any other CA is late in producing its 
new audit reports.  What if MegaCA votes on a disputed ballot when MegaCA has 
not provided an updated audit for 15 months and 4 days – but no one knew that.  
Would its vote count?  Could someone declare later “Wait, we will now discard 
MegaCA’s prior vote because we just found out MegaCA was in suspended status at 
the time of the vote, and no one knew it”?

Maybe we also need a provision that the vote of any browser or CA will be 
counted until there is a formal notice of suspension posted (by the Chair or 
Vice Chair?) to the Public list?

Maybe we also need a provision that says in the event a browser or CA fails to 
qualify for ongoing membership, that party (or any other member) may forward 
evidence of the party’s lack of membership qualification to the Chair, and the 
Chair and Vice-Chair will confer and post their decision on suspension to the 
Public list?  And any member may challenge the suspension and put it to a vote 
of all members voting as a single class?

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Subject: [EXTERNAL][cabfpub] Membership-related clarifications ballot draft (2)


Here's an updated draft with some changes prompted by Kirk's suggestions. We 
now make it clear that proper recognition of currently-issued certificates by 
at least one browser member is a membership requirement. I've therefore also 
expanded the ways one can lose membership to match. Also, for the avoidance of 
doubt, I've added the definition of "Affiliate" from the IPR policy.

Gerv

Ballot XXX - Membership-related clarifications
Purpose of Ballot: The CAB Forum Bylaws define membership criteria, but don't 
say what should happen when an existing member ceases to meet those criteria. 
This ballot is intended to fix this, for the avoidance of doubt and 
uncertainty. It also makes it clearer that proper recognition of 
currently-issued certificates by at least one browser member is a membership 
requirement, and adds the definition of "Affiliate" from the IPR policy.
The following motion has been proposed by Gervase Markham of Mozilla and 
endorsed by XXX of XXX and XXX of XXX:

-- MOTION BEGINS --
This motion changes the CAB Forum Bylaws.
Section 1

Add a new section between 2.1 ("Qualifying for Forum Membership") and the 
following section, numbering the new section 2.2, and renumbering following 
sections appropriately. The new section shall read:

2.2 Ending Forum Membership

Forum members may resign from the Forum at any time. Resignation does not 
prevent a member potentially having continuing obligations, under the Forum's 
IPR Policy or any other document.

(a) Browser: A Browser member's membership will automatically cease if any of 
the following become true:

  *   it stops providing updates for its membership-qualifying software 
product; or
  *   six months have elapsed since the last such published update.
(b) Issuing CA or Root CA: An CA member's membership will be suspended if any 
of the following become true:

  *   it fails to pass its membership-qualifying audit;
  *   its membership-qualifying audit is rescinded;
  *   fifteen months have elapsed since the end of the Audit Period of its last 
successful membership-qualifying audit;
  *   it stops issuing certificates to Web servers that are openly accessible 
from the Internet; or
  *   it is no longer the case that its currently-issued certificates are 
treated as valid by at least one Browser member.
A CA member's membership will automatically cease after a further six months if 
it has not re-met the membership qualifications by that time. While suspended, 
CAs may participate in meetings and on the Forum's discussion lists, but not 
take part in any form of voting.

Section 2

Update both sections 2.1 (a) and (b) to insert words as follows:

"actively issues certificates to Web servers that are openly accessible from 
the Internet, such certificates being treated as valid when using a browser 
created by a Browser member."

Section 3

Update section 2.2 b) as follows:

Only one vote per Member company shall be accepted; representatives of 
corporate affiliatesAffiliates shall not vote.

Add to the Definitions section:

Affiliate: an entity that directly or indirectly controls, is controlled by or 
is under common control with, a Member. Control for the purposes of this 
Agreement shall mean direct or indirect beneficial ownership of more than fifty 
percent of the voting stock, or decision-making authority in the event that 
there is no voting stock, in an entity.
-- MOTION ENDS --


The procedure for approval of this Final Maintenance Guideline ballot is as 
follows:



BALLOT XXX

Status: Final Maintenance Guideline


Start time (23:00 UTC)


End time (23:00 UTC)


Discussion (7 to 14 days)


XXX

XXX


Vote for approval (7 days)

XXX

XXX


If vote approves ballot: Review Period (Chair to send Review Notice) (30 days).

If Exclusion Notice(s) filed, ballot approval is rescinded and PAG to be 
created.

If no Exclusion Notices filed, ballot becomes effective at end of Review Period.

Upon filing of Review Notice by Chair

30 days after filing of Review Notice by Chair




From Bylaw 2.3: If the Draft Guideline Ballot is proposing a Final Maintenance 
Guideline, such ballot will include a redline or comparison showing the set of 
changes from the Final Guideline section(s) intended to become a Final 
Maintenance Guideline, and need not include a copy of the full set of 
guidelines.  Such redline or comparison shall be made against the Final 
Guideline section(s) as they exist at the time a ballot is proposed, and need 
not take into consideration other ballots that may be proposed subsequently, 
except as provided in Bylaw Section 2.3(j).



Votes must be cast by posting an on-list reply to this thread on the Public 
list.  A vote in favor of the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' in the 
response. A vote against must indicate a clear 'no' in the response. A vote to 
abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain' in the response. Unclear responses will 
not be counted. The latest vote received from any representative of a voting 
member before the close of the voting period will be counted. Voting members 
are listed here: https://cabforum.org/members/
In order for the motion to be adopted, two thirds or more of the votes cast by 
members in the CA category and greater than 50% of the votes cast by members in 
the browser category must be in favor.  Quorum is shown on CA/Browser Forum 
wiki.  Under Bylaw 2.2(g), at least the required quorum number must participate 
in the ballot for the ballot to be valid, either by voting in favor, voting 
against, or abstaining.
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