I think we should focus on the core changes to remove “any other method” before 
we start adding more changes to indicate the version of the BRs that were used, 
so I would recommend not including this in ballot 190.  We have enough 
discussion points now, especially if we’re considering anything in Jeremy’s 
latest proposal.

Doug


From: Public [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ryan Sleevi via 
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Subject: Re: [cabfpub] Preballot - Revised Ballot 190

Kirk,

I didn't see an answer to this question posed - 
https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2017-April/010802.html

For example, proposed technical details were provided in 
https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2017-May/010848.html

Would you (and Jeremy and Gerv) be receptive to including this in 3.2.2.4? I'd 
be happy to write the text to accomplish this, but I was under the 
misunderstanding that the lack of reply meant y'all were considering it.

There did not appear to be any objections raised on the list - simply a 
discussion related to policy OIDs versus an extension, but the the extension 
provides a semantically valid approach that minimizes any changes to CA 
infrastructure.

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Kirk Hall via Public 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Jeremy, Gerv, and I have worked on this revised version of Ballot 190, and 
offer it for comment as a preballot.
A few points to highlight.

-          There is now a new fifth paragraph in the introductory part of BR 
3.2.2.4 that requires CAs to maintain a record of which domain validation 
method they use (including version number) for each validated domain.  This is 
to add more flexibility in the future if methods must be changed and existing 
domains revalidated for some reason.

-          The new sixth paragraph clarifies that domains validated prior to 
the effective date of Ballot 190 are not required to be revalidated, but the 
validation data can be reused for the periods specified in BR 4.2.1 and EVGL 
11.14.3.

-          We also have added a line to each validation method indicating 
whether or not the validation method is suitable for wildcard certificates.
I will try to create and circulate a “show changes” version of BR 3.2.2.4 that 
shows all these changes against the current language.
***
Ballot 190 - Revised Validation Requirements
Purpose of Ballot: The purpose of this ballot is to 1) re-introduce the BR 
3.2.2.4 domain validation methods removed in ballot 180-182 because of IPR 
concerns, 2) clarify some issues with the .well-known method, 3) specify how 
the reuse of information works with respect to the newly adopted methods, and 
(4) indicate which domain validation methods are suitable for wildcard 
certificates.
The following motion has been proposed by Jeremy Rowley of DigiCert and 
endorsed by the following CA/B Forum member representatives: Chris Bailey of 
Entrust Datacard and YYYY to introduce new Final Maintenance Guidelines for the 
"Baseline Requirements Certificate Policy for the Issuance and Management of 
Publicly-Trusted Certificates" (Baseline Requirements).
--Motion Begins--
Ballot Section 1
1) The introductory paragraphs to BR 3.2.2.4 are amended as follows:
3.2.2.4. Validation of Domain Authorization or Control
This section defines the permitted processes and procedures for validating the 
Applicant's ownership or control of the domain.
The CA SHALL confirm that, as of the date the Certificate issues, either the CA 
or a Delegated Third Party has validated each Fully‐Qualified Domain Name 
(FQDN) listed in the Certificate using at least one of the methods  listed 
below.
Completed confirmations of Applicant authority may be valid for the issuance of 
multiple certificates over time. In all cases, the confirmation must have been 
initiated within the time period specified in the relevant requirement (such as 
Section 4.2.1 of this document) prior to certificate issuance. For purposes of 
domain validation, the term Applicant includes the Applicant's Parent Company, 
Subsidiary Company, or Affiliate.
Note: FQDNs may be listed in Subscriber Certificates using dNSNames in the 
subjectAltName extension or in Subordinate CA Certificates via dNSNames in 
permittedSubtrees within the Name Constraints extension.
CAs SHALL maintain a record of which domain validation method, including 
relevant BR version number, they used to validate every domain.
After [insert effective date of Ballot 190], a CA MAY continue to reuse 
validation data from its validation of an FQDN under the methods listed in (a) 
BR 4.3.3.2 of Version 1.3.7 (or earlier) of the Baseline Requirements, (b) BR 
4.3.3.2 of Version 1.3.8 to 1.4.1 of the Baseline Requirements, or (c) BR 
3.2.2.4 of Version 1.4.2 to 1.4.x [insert most recent version number for the 
BRs at time this ballot becomes effective] of the Baseline Requirements for the 
periods specified in BR 4.2.1 or the EVGL 11.14.3.
2) Replace Section 3.2.2.4.1:
3.2.2.4.1 Validating the Applicant as a Domain Contact
Confirming the Applicant's control over the FQDN by validating the Applicant is 
the Domain Contact directly with the Domain Name Registrar. This method may 
only be used if:

  1.  The CA authenticates the Applicant's identity under BR Section 3.2.2.1 
and the authority of the Applicant Representative under BR Section 3.2.5, OR
  2.  The CA authenticates the Applicant's identity under EV Guidelines Section 
11.2 and the agency of the Certificate Approver under EV Guidelines Section 
11.8; OR
  3.  The CA is also the Domain Name Registrar, or an Affiliate of the 
Registrar, of the Base Domain Name.

Note: This method is suitable for validating domains for wildcard issuance.
3) Replace Section 3.2.2.4.2:
3.2.2.4.2 Email, Fax, SMS, or Postal Mail to Domain Contact
Confirming the Applicant's control over the FQDN by sending a Random Value via 
email, fax, SMS, or postal mail and then receiving a confirming response 
utilizing the Random Value. The Random Value MUST be sent to an email address, 
fax/SMS number, or postal mail address identified as a Domain Contact.
Each email, fax, SMS, or postal mail MAY confirm control of multiple 
Authorization Domain Names.
The CA or Delegated Third Party MAY send the email, fax, SMS, or postal mail 
identified under this section to more than one recipient provided that every 
recipient is identified by the Domain Name Registrar as representing the Domain 
Name Registrant for every FQDN being verified using the email, fax, SMS, or 
postal mail.
The Random Value SHALL be unique in each email, fax, SMS, or postal mail.
The CA or Delegated Third Party MAY resend the email, fax, SMS, or postal mail 
in its entirety, including re-use of the Random Value, provided that the 
communication's entire contents and recipient(s) remain unchanged.
The Random Value SHALL remain valid for use in a confirming response for no 
more than 30 days from its creation. The CPS MAY specify a shorter validity 
period for Random Values, in which case the CA MUST follow its CPS.
Note: This method is suitable for validating domains for wildcard issuance.
4) Replace Section 3.2.2.4.3:
3.2.2.4.3 Phone Contact with Domain Contact
Confirming the Applicant's control over the requested FQDN by calling the 
Domain Name Registrant's phone number and obtaining a response confirming the 
Applicant's request for validation of the FQDN. The CA or Delegated Third Party 
MUST place the call to a phone number identified by the Domain Name Registrar 
as the Domain Contact.
Each phone call SHALL be made to a single number and MAY confirm control of 
multiple FQDNs, provided that the phone number is identified by the Domain 
Registrar as a valid contact method for every Base Domain Name being verified 
using the phone call.
Note: This method is suitable for validating domains for wildcard issuance.
5) Replace Section 3.2.2.4.4:
3.2.2.4.4 Constructed Email to Domain Contact
Confirm the Applicant's control over the requested FQDN by (i) sending an email 
to one or more addresses created by using 'admin', 'administrator', 
'webmaster', 'hostmaster', or 'postmaster' as the local part, followed by the 
at-sign ("@"), followed by an Authorization Domain Name, (ii) including a 
Random Value in the email, and (iii) receiving a confirming response utilizing 
the Random Value.
Each email MAY confirm control of multiple FQDNs, provided the Authorization 
Domain Name used in the email is an Authorization Domain Name for each FQDN 
being confirmed
The Random Value SHALL be unique in each email.
The email MAY be re-sent in its entirety, including the re-use of the Random 
Value, provided that its entire contents and recipient SHALL remain unchanged.
The Random Value SHALL remain valid for use in a confirming response for no 
more than 30 days from its creation. The CPS MAY specify a shorter validity 
period for Random Values, in which case the CA.
Note: This method is suitable for validating domains for wildcard issuance.
6) Add the following to the end of Section 3.2.2.4.5:
Note: This method is suitable for validating domains for wildcard issuance.
7) Edit Section 3.2.2.4.6:
3.2.2.4.6 Agreed-Upon Change to Website
Confirming the Applicant's control over the requested FQDN by confirming the 
presence of a Request Token or Random Value contained in the content of a file 
or on a web page in the form of a meta tag one of the following under the 
"/.well‐known/pki‐validation" directory, or another path registered with IANA 
for the purpose of Domain Validation, on the Authorization Domain Name that is 
accessible by the CA via HTTP/HTTPS over an Authorized Port. The Request Token 
or Random Value MUST NOT appear in the request for the file or web-page.  :
1. The presence of Required Website Content contained in the content of a file 
or on a web page in the form of a meta tag. The entire Required Website Content 
MUST NOT appear in the request used to retrieve the file or web page, or
2. The presence of the Request Token or Request Value contained in the content 
of a file or on a webpage in the form of a meta tag where the Request Token or 
Random Value MUST NOT appear in the request.
If a Random Value is used, the CA or Delegated Third Party SHALL provide a 
Random Value unique to the certificate request and SHALL not use the Random 
Value after the longer of (i) 30 days or (ii) if the Applicant submitted the 
certificate request, the timeframe permitted for reuse of validated information 
relevant to the certificate (such as in Section 3.3.1 of these Guidelines or 
Section 11.14.3 of the EV Guidelines).
Note: Examples of Request Tokens include, but are not limited to: (i) a hash of 
the public key; (ii) a hash of the Subject Public Key Info [X.509]; and (iii) a 
hash of a PKCS#10 CSR. A Request Token may also be concatenated with a 
timestamp or other data. If a CA wanted to always use a hash of a PKCS#10 CSR 
as a Request Token and did not want to incorporate a timestamp and did want to 
allow certificate key re‐use then the applicant might use the challenge 
password in the creation of a CSR with OpenSSL to ensure uniqueness even if the 
subject and key are identical between subsequent requests. This simplistic 
shell command produces a Request Token which has a timestamp and a hash of a 
CSR. E.g. echo `date -u +%Y%m%d%H%M` `sha256sum <r2.csr` | sed "s/[ -]//g". The 
script 
outputs:201602251811c9c863405fe7675a3988b97664ea6baf442019e4e52fa335f406f7c5f26cf14f
The CA should define in its CPS (or in a document referenced from the CPS) the 
format of Request Tokens it accepts.
Note: This method is suitable for validating domains for wildcard issuance.
8) Add Section 3.2.2.4.7:
3.2.2.4.7 DNS Change
Confirming the Applicant's control over the requested FQDN by confirming the 
presence of a Random Value or Request Token in a DNS CNAME, TXT, or CAA record 
for an Authorization Domain Name or an Authorization Domain Name that is 
prefixed with a label that begins with an underscore character.
If a Random Value is used, the CA or Delegated Third Party SHALL provide a 
Random Value unique to the certificate request and SHALL not use the Random 
Value after (i) 30 days or (ii) if the Applicant submitted the certificate 
request, the timeframe permitted for reuse of validated information relevant to 
the certificate (such as in Section 3.3.1 of these Guidelines or Section 
11.14.3 of the EV Guidelines).
Note: This method is suitable for validating domains for wildcard issuance.
9) Add Section 3.2.2.4.8:
3.2.2.4.8 IP Address
Confirming the Applicant's control over the requested FQDN by confirming that 
the Applicant controls an IP address returned from a DNS lookup for A or AAAA 
records for the FQDN in accordance with section 3.2.2.5.
Note: This method is NOT suitable for validating domains for wildcard issuance.
10) Add Section 3.2.2.4.9:
3.2.2.4.9 Test Certificate
Confirming the Applicant's control over the requested FQDN by confirming the 
presence of a non‐expired Test Certificate issued by the CA on the 
Authorization Domain Name and which is accessible by the CA via TLS over an 
Authorized Port for the purpose of issuing a Certificate with the same Public 
Key as in the Test Certificate.
Note: This method is suitable for validating domains for wildcard issuance.
11) Add the following to the end of Section 3.2.2.4.10:
Note: This method is suitable for validating domains for wildcard issuance.
12) Delete Section 3.2.2.4.11
13) Delete the definition of “Required Website Content”
14) Revised the definition of “Authorized Ports” as follows:
One of the following ports: 80 (http), 443 (http), 115 (sftp), 25 (smtp), 22 
(ssh).
15) Revise the definition of Test Certificate as follows:
Test Certificate: A Certificate with a maximum validity period of 30 days and 
which: (i) includes a critical extension with the specified Test Certificate 
CABF OID (2.23.140.2.1), or (ii) is issued under a CA where there are no 
certificate paths/chains to a root certificate subject to these Requirements
--Motion Ends--

The procedure for approval of this Final Maintenance Guideline ballot is as 
follows (exact start and end times may be adjusted to comply with applicable 
Bylaws and IPR Agreement):



BALLOT 190

Status: Final Maintenance Guideline


Start time (23:00 UTC)


End time (23:00 UTC)


Discussion (7 to 14 days)







Vote for approval (7 days)






If vote approves ballot: Review Period (Chair to send Review Notice) (30 days).

If Exclusion Notice(s) filed, ballot approval is rescinded and PAG to be 
created.

If no Exclusion Notices filed, ballot becomes effective at end of Review Period.

Upon filing of Review Notice by Chair

30 days after filing of Review Notice by Chair




From Bylaw 2.3: If the Draft Guideline Ballot is proposing a Final Maintenance 
Guideline, such ballot will include a redline or comparison showing the set of 
changes from the Final Guideline section(s) intended to become a Final 
Maintenance Guideline, and need not include a copy of the full set of 
guidelines.  Such redline or comparison shall be made against the Final 
Guideline section(s) as they exist at the time a ballot is proposed, and need 
not take into consideration other ballots that may be proposed subsequently, 
except as provided in Bylaw Section 2.3(j).



Votes must be cast by posting an on-list reply to this thread on the Public 
list.  A vote in favor of the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' in the 
response. A vote against must indicate a clear 'no' in the response. A vote to 
abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain' in the response. Unclear responses will 
not be counted. The latest vote received from any representative of a voting 
member before the close of the voting period will be counted. Voting members 
are listed here: https://cabforum.org/members/


In order for the motion to be adopted, two thirds or more of the votes cast by 
members in the CA category and greater than 50% of the votes cast by members in 
the browser category must be in favor.  Quorum is shown on CA/Browser Forum 
wiki.  Under Bylaw 2.2(g), at least the required quorum number must participate 
in the ballot for the ballot to be valid, either by voting in favor, voting 
against, or abstaining.





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