Hi Peter,

I thought that the Base Domain Name was made up of two parts: 1) domain name 
node to a registry-controlled or public suffix, and 2) the registry-controlled 
or public suffix. So a Base Domain Name can be example.com or example.co.uk.

I also thought that there was an exception if the gTLD had ICANN specification 
13 applied. In this case the gTLD could be both 1 and 2. So for .ford, then I 
could just verify .ford. I think I could also have a server at https://ford. It 
would be great if that could be confirmed, especially since we might have some 
experience as I see that .apple, .google and .microsoft are all gTLDs with 
ICANN specification 13.

Your proposal does not address the exception for specification 13. In fact, I 
think your proposal is adding items which are part 2 of the Base Domain Name.

Thanks, Bruce.

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Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 9:03 AM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL][cabfpub] Base Domain Name correction

The Baseline Requirements have a definition of “Base Domain Name” which seems 
to reference the wrong ICANN standard.  Right now it says:

> Base Domain Name: The portion of an applied‐for FQDN that is the first domain 
> name node left of a registry‐ controlled or public suffix plus the 
> registry‐controlled or public suffix (e.g. "example.co.uk" or "example.com"). 
> For FQDNs where the right‐most domain name node is a gTLD having ICANN 
> Specification 13 in its registry agreement, the gTLD itself may be used as 
> the Base Domain Name. 

Based on discussions with some colleagues who are very knowledgeable in ICANN 
processes, I suggest a change to the last sentence to read:

> For FQDNs where the right‐most domain name label is a gTLD for which a Code 
> of Conduct Notice of Exemption was granted by ICANN 
> (https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/agb/base-agreement-contracting/ccer),
>  or where the right-mode domain label is “mil", the gTLD itself may be used 
> as the Base Domain Name. 

The former definition currently references Specification 13, but Spec 13 allows 
registrations by companies that license trademarks.  For example, independent 
auto dealers can operate websites under their licensed brand (e.g. 
http://www.mh-autoforum-giessen.audi/ ).  Conversely, the exemption explicitly 
says:

1) All domain name registrations in the TLD are registered to, and maintained 
by, Registry Operator for the exclusive use of Registry Operator or its 
affiliates
2) Registry Operator does not sell, distribute or transfer control or use of 
any registrations in the TLD to any third party that is not an affiliate of 
Registry Operator

This is the appropriate standard to treat the TLD as the registered domain.  
There are currently 78 TLDs that have been granted an exemption: .able, 
.agakhan, .akdn, .allfinanz, .aramco, .axa, .bcn, .bond, .broadway, .cal, 
.catholic, .cityeats, .crs, .dclk, .dev, .dot, .drive, .erni, .eurovision, 
.firmdale, .foo, .ftr, .gbiz, .gle, .globo, .goog, .gotv, .guge, .hangout, 
.helsinki, .imamat, .ismaili, .jprs, .kerryhotels, .kerrylogistics, 
.kerryproperties, .kfh, .kred, .kuokgroup, .lasalle, .lds, .lifestyle, .living, 
.mango, .med, .mma, .mormon, .movistar, .neustar, .nra, .observer, .office, 
.ollo, .play, .pohl, .prod, .quest, .realtor, .redumbrella, .richardli, 
.sakura, .seat, .shriram, .stc, .stcgroup, .telefonica, .thd, 
.travelersinsurance, .trv, .vana, .viva, .xn--80aqecdr1a, .xn--mgbi4ecexp, 
.xn--tiq49xqyj, .yamaxun, xn--mgba3a3ejt, xn--ngbe9e0a, xn--w4r85el8fhu5dnra

The change also recognizes that “mil”, which is a pre-ICANN non-CCTLD, follows 
the same rules; everything under .mil is part of the United States Department 
of Defense and .mil has no concept of public registrations.

I believe that this change is in line with the current expectations and will 
hopefully be non-controversial.

Thanks,
Peter


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