Peter, I also agree, this looks good. Thanks for coming up with a solution!
Doug From: Tim Hollebeek [mailto:tholleb...@trustwave.com] Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 10:27 AM To: Peter Bowen <p...@amzn.com>; Erwann Abalea <erwann.aba...@docusign.com>; CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <public@cabforum.org>; mads.henriksv...@buypass.no; Doug Beattie <doug.beat...@globalsign.com> Cc: Ben Wilson <ben.wil...@digicert.com>; paul.hoff...@icann.org Subject: RE: [cabfpub] Ballot 202 - Underscore and Wildcard Characters Looks good. From: Peter Bowen [mailto:p...@amzn.com] Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 9:08 AM To: Erwann Abalea <erwann.aba...@docusign.com>; CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <public@cabforum.org>; mads.henriksv...@buypass.no; Doug Beattie <doug.beat...@globalsign.com>; Tim Hollebeek <tholleb...@trustwave.com> Cc: Ben Wilson <ben.wil...@digicert.com>; paul.hoff...@icann.org Subject: Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 202 - Underscore and Wildcard Characters Erwann, Mads, Doug, and Tim, I appreciate the feedback on the terminology. You have all pointed out similar concerns, namely that Domain Name, FQDN, Domain Label, etc all have existing well known meanings and trying to overload them only confuses things and may have unintended consequences. After reviewing the feedback, I think it makes sense to use existing external definitions for existing terms and define our own distinct ones where we mean something specific for the BRs. Paul suggested looking to RFC 7719, "DNS Terminology”, which I think makes sense. What do you think of the following definitions and proposed use? Thanks, Peter A-label: As defined in RFC 5890: A valid the ASCII-Compatible Encoding form of an IDNA-valid string Conforming FQDN: A Fully-Qualified Domain Name where each label is either an A-label, Non-reserved LDH label, or X-label and that does not include the final, zero-length label of the root. “www.example.com<http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=4062&d=ouX52Q47SU5Ob6wWNjwHf-ns9dSB2SIbPteaxEUOuA&s=5&u=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2eexample%2ecom>” and “example.net<http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=4062&d=ouX52Q47SU5Ob6wWNjwHf-ns9dSB2SIbPt_OnkMM7g&s=5&u=http%3a%2f%2fexample%2enet>” are Conforming FQDNs. Conforming Wildcard Domain Name: A string starting with "*." (U+002A ASTERISK, U+002E FULL STOP) immediately followed by a Conforming FQDN. “*.example.com<http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=4062&d=ouX52Q47SU5Ob6wWNjwHf-ns9dSB2SIbPtfLlUIN7g&s=5&u=http%3a%2f%2fexample%2ecom>” is a Conforming Wildcard Domain Name. Domain Label: A “label” as defined in RFC 7719 Domain Name: As defined in RFC 7719 Fully-Qualified Domain Name: As defined in RFC 7719 LDH Label: As defined in RFC 5890: a label with the "preferred name syntax" in Section 3.5 of RFC 1034 [RFC1034] as modified by RFC 1123 [RFC1123] Non-reserved LDH Label: As defined in RFC 5890: A valid LDH label that does not have "--" in the third and fourth positions X-label: A Non-LDH label which contains one or more "_" (U+005F LOW LINE) characters and where replacing every LOW LINE character with a "-" (U+002D HYPHEN-MINUS) character results in a LDH label. Then in section 7.1.4.2.1: Subject Alternative Name Extension Contents: This extension MUST contain at least one entry. Each entry MUST be one of the following types: dNSName: the entry MUST contain either a Conforming FQDN or a Conforming Wildcard Domain Name that the CA has validated in accordance with section 3.2.2.4. Conforming FQDNs and the FQDN portion of Conforming Wildcard Domain Names must comply with RFC 5280 section 4.2.1.6 with the exception that they may contain X-labels. CAs MUST additionally validate that Wildcard Domain Names are consistent with section 3.2.2.6. The entry MUST NOT contain an Internal Name. On Jul 25, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Erwann Abalea via Public <public@cabforum.org<mailto:public@cabforum.org>> wrote: Bonsoir, DocuSign France votes No. While there are good clarifications around domain names, FQDNs, wildcards, and reserved labels, there are a few drawbacks: 1. Underscores in SAN:dNSName entries. It’s not the current BR that disallows underscores in dNSNames, it’s X.509 and RFC5280 (and current DNS specifications), and there is no justification about allowing underscores other than « it’s done by some admins » or « Microsoft allows it ». While domain names can contain anything (even characters such as '[({*$!?" ), dNSName shall contain a host name, and host names shall only be composed of LDH labels. I’d prefer the standards to be changed instead of explicitly allowing deviations from the standard. 2. « Reserved IP address ». The new definition now allows a CA to deliver a certificate for an obviously invalid IP (I doubt anyone could claim « owning » 192.0.0.9 or 192.0.0.10, and I haven’t fully checked the others). 3. « Wildcard Domain Name ». The new definition is not robust enough. An FQDN is a sequence of Domain Labels —which can contain any character—, so « *.domain.com<http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=4062&d=ouX52Q47SU5Ob6wWNjwHf-ns9dSB2SIbPtGbw0YDug&s=5&u=http%3a%2f%2fdomain%2ecom%2f> » is a valid FQDN, so « *.*.domain.com<http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=4062&d=ouX52Q47SU5Ob6wWNjwHf-ns9dSB2SIbPtGbw0YDug&s=5&u=http%3a%2f%2fdomain%2ecom%2f> » is a valid Wildcard Domain Name according to this definition. Cordialement, Erwann Abalea Le 12 juil. 2017 à 19:24, Ben Wilson via Public <public@cabforum.org<mailto:public@cabforum.org>> a écrit : Ballot 202 - Underscore and Wildcard Characters The current Baseline Requirements do not expressly allow underscore characters in Subject Alternative Names. This ballot seeks to clarify that one or more underscore characters (“_”) are allowed in FQDNs. In many places it also replaces the term "FQDN" with "Domain Name" because "Domain Name" now means either "FQDN" or "Wildcard Domain Name". The ballot clarifies validation of wildcard domain names. It also cleans up some of the language in Sections 3.2.2.4 and 7.1.4.2.1 of the Baseline Requirements. The following motion has been proposed by Ben Wilson of DigiCert and endorsed by Peter Bowen of Amazon and Ryan Sleevi of Google to introduce new Final Maintenance Guidelines for the "Baseline Requirements Certificate Policy for the Issuance and Management of Publicly-Trusted Certificates" (Baseline Requirements). --Motion Begins-- A. In Sections 1.3.2, 1.6 (Base Domain Name), 2.2, 3.2.2.4, 3.2.2.4.5, 3.2.2.4.6, 3.2.2.4.10, 3.2.2.4.11, 4.2.1, 4.9.1.1.6, and 4.9.11 of the Baseline Requirements, REPLACE the words "Fully Qualified Domain Name" and "FQDN" with "Domain Name". B. In Section 1.6.1 of the Baseline Requirements, REPLACE the definition for "Authorization Domain Name" with the following: The Domain Name used to obtain authorization for certificate issuance for a given Domain Name. The CA may use the FQDN returned from a DNS CNAME lookup as the Domain Name for the purposes of domain validation. If the Domain Name is a Wildcard Domain Name, then the CA MUST remove “*.” from the left most portion of requested Domain Name. The CA may prune zero or more labels from left to right until encountering a Base Domain Name and may use any one of the intermediate values for the purpose of domain validation. C. In Section 1.6.1 of the Baseline Requirements, INSERT the following definition: "Domain Label: An individual component of a Domain Name." D. In Section 1.6.1 of the Baseline Requirements, REPLACE the definition for "Domain Name" with the following: A set of one or more Domain Labels, each separated by a single full stop character ("."). E. In Section 1.6.1 of the Baseline Requirements, REPLACE the definition for "Fully-Qualified Domain Name" with the following: A Domain Name that includes the Domain Labels of all superior nodes in the Internet Domain Name System. F. In Section 1.6.1 of the Baseline Requirements, REPLACE the definition for "Reserved IP Address" with the following: An IPv4 or IPv6 address that the IANA has "False" for Globally Reachable in either of the IANA Special-Purpose IP Address Registries: https://www.iana.org/assignments/iana-ipv4-special-registry/iana-ipv4-special-registry.xhtml<https://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=4062&d=ouX52Q47SU5Ob6wWNjwHf-ns9dSB2SIbPtLGlhIP7g&s=5&u=https%3a%2f%2fwww%2eiana%2eorg%2fassignments%2fiana-ipv4-special-registry%2fiana-ipv4-special-registry%2exhtml> or https://www.iana.org/assignments/iana-ipv6-special-registry/iana-ipv6-special-registry.xhtml<https://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=4062&d=ouX52Q47SU5Ob6wWNjwHf-ns9dSB2SIbPoLJx0EN7g&s=5&u=https%3a%2f%2fwww%2eiana%2eorg%2fassignments%2fiana-ipv6-special-registry%2fiana-ipv6-special-registry%2exhtml> G. In Section 1.6.1 of the Baseline Requirements, REPLACE the definition for "Wildcard Certificate" with the following: A Certificate containing a Wildcard Domain Name in any of the Subject Alternative Names in the Certificate. H. In Section 1.6.1 of the Baseline Requirements, INSERT the following definition: "Wildcard Domain Name: A Domain Name consisting of a single asterisk character ("*") followed by a single full stop character (".") followed by a Fully-Qualified Domain Name." I. In Section 2.2 of the Baseline Requirements, INSERT the word "requested" in the fourth sentence between the words "processing CAA records for" and "Domain Names" so that it reads, "processing CAA records for requested Domain Names". J. REPLACE the second paragraph of Section 3.2.2.4 of the Baseline Requirements so that it reads, "The CA SHALL confirm that, as of the date the Certificate issues, the CA has validated each Domain Name listed in the Certificate using at least one of the methods listed below, or is within the Domain Namespace of a Fully Qualified Domain Name (FQDN) that has been validated using at least one of the methods listed below (not including the method defined in section 3.2.2.4.8)." K. REPLACE Section 3.2.2.6 of the Baseline Requirements in its entirety with: 3.2.2.6. Additional Validation for Wildcard Certificates Before issuing a Wildcard Certificate, the CA MUST establish and follow a documented procedure[^pubsuffix] that determines if the FQDN portion of any Wildcard Domain Name in the certificate is “registry-controlled” or is a “public suffix” (e.g. “*.com”, “*.co.uk<http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=4062&d=ouX52Q47SU5Ob6wWNjwHf-ns9dSB2SIbPt7Mk0YI6A&s=5&u=http%3a%2f%2fco%2euk%2f>”, see RFC 6454 Section 8.2 for further explanation). If the FQDN portion of any Wildcard Domain Name in the certificate is "registry-controlled" or is a "public suffix", CAs MUST refuse issuance unless the applicant proves its rightful control of the entire Domain Namespace. (e.g. CAs MUST NOT issue "*.co.uk<http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=4062&d=ouX52Q47SU5Ob6wWNjwHf-ns9dSB2SIbPt7Mk0YI6A&s=5&u=http%3a%2f%2fco%2euk%2f>" or "*.local", but MAY issue "*.example.com<http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=4062&d=ouX52Q47SU5Ob6wWNjwHf-ns9dSB2SIbPtDKkRdd6w&s=5&u=http%3a%2f%2fexample%2ecom%2f>" to Example Co.). [^pubsuffix] Determination of what is “registry-controlled” versus the registerable portion of a Country Code Top-Level Domain Namespace is not standardized at the time of writing and is not a property of the DNS itself. Current best practice is to consult a “public suffix list” such as http://publicsuffix.org/<http://scanmail.trustwave.com/?c=4062&d=ouX52Q47SU5Ob6wWNjwHf-ns9dSB2SIbPtXJk0FZ7A&s=5&u=http%3a%2f%2fpublicsuffix%2eorg%2f> (PSL), and to retrieve a fresh copy regularly. If using the PSL, a CA SHOULD consult the "ICANN DOMAINS" section only, not the "PRIVATE DOMAINS" section. The PSL is updated regularly to contain new gTLDs delegated by ICANN, which are listed in the "ICANN DOMAINS" section. A CA is not prohibited from issuing a Wildcard Certificate to the Registrant of an entire gTLD, provided that control of the entire namespace is demonstrated in an appropriate way. L. REPLACE Section 7.1.4.2.1 of the Baseline Requirements in its entirety with: 7.1.4.2.1 Subject Alternative Name Extension Certificate Field: extensions:subjectAltName Required/Optional: Required Contents: This extension MUST contain at least one entry. Each entry MUST be one of the following types: 1. dNSName: the entry MUST contain either a Fully-Qualified Domain Name or Wildcard Domain Name that the CA has validated in accordance with section 3.2.2.4. FQDNs and the FQDN portion of Wildcard DNs must comply with RFC 5280 section 4.2.1.6 with the following exception: underscore characters ("_") are allowed in Domain Labels such that replacing all underscore characters with hyphen characters ("-") would result in a valid Domain Label. CAs MUST NOT include Domain Labels which have hyphens as the third and fourth characters unless the first character is "x" or "X", the second character is "n" or "N", and the fifth and later characters are a valid Punycode string. CAs MUST additionally validate that Wildcard DNs are consistent with section 3.2.2.6. The entry MUST NOT contain an Internal Name. 2. iPAddress: the entry MUST contain an IP address that the CA has validated in accordance with Section 3.2.2.5. The entry MUST NOT contain a Reserved IP Address. M. REPLACE subsection a. of Section 7.1.4.2.2 of the Baseline Requirements with: a. Certificate Field: subject:commonName (OID 2.5.4.3) Required/Optional: Deprecated (Discouraged, but not prohibited) Contents: If present, this field MUST contain a single IP address or Domain Name that is one of the values contained in the Certificate’s subjectAltName extension (see Section 7.1.4.2.1). When including a Domain Name in a common name, CAs MUST only use LDH labels as defined in RFC 5890 and MUST NOT use U-labels. When including an IPv6 address in a common name, CAs MUST use a format conforming to Section 4 or Section 5 of RFC 5952. When including an IPv4 address in a common name, CAs MUST encode the name as an IPv4Address as defined in RFC 3986. --Motion Ends-- The procedure for approval of this Final Maintenance Guideline ballot is as follows (exact start and end times may be adjusted to comply with applicable Bylaws and IPR Agreement): BALLOT 202 Status: Final Maintenance Guideline Start time (22:00 UTC) End time (22:00 UTC) Discussion (7 to 14 days) July 12, 2017 to July 19, 2017 Vote for approval (7 days) July 19, 2017 to July 26, 2017 If a vote of the Forum approves this ballot, the Chair will initiate a 30-day IPR Review Period by sending out an IPR Review Notice. After 30 days of announcing the IPR Review period by the Chair: (a) If Exclusion Notice(s) are filed, this ballot approval is rescinded and a PAG will be created; or (b) If no Exclusion Notices are filed, this ballot becomes effective at end of the IPR Review Period. 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