I can well imagine a possibility where the IETF WG might leave some parts of 
the specification specified in less detail than would be desirable for 
compliance purposes and thus make work in CABForum desirable. But lets cross 
that bridge if we come to it.

 

What somewhat worries me is a situation in which I have ten CABForum members 
tell me that they really want X in a CABForum group and then I report that into 
the IETF WG and three people say they have other ideas and there being 3 of 
them and one of me, they represent the consensus. IETF process does allow for 
liasons and there might be an argument for a CABForum/IETF liason. But that 
does not seem like the right approach here.

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: [cabfpub] CAA working group description

 

I agree with both Phillip and Jacob here. I think LAMPS is a great venue for 
working out the technical issues of discussion - and identifying where policy 
flexibility is needed or the challenges - and then bringing that as maybe one 
or two more ballots into the Forum. I think the technical clarifications and 
edge cases that we've seen discussed are totally within the realm of IETF's 
goals of interoperability, so we should try to use that as much as possible :)

 

The extent of Forum ballots seems like it may be adopting one or two more 
technical erratum (if interoperability issues arise and raised in IETF), and 
then potentially exploring adopting the newer version being proposed in LAMPS 
once completed.

 

On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Jacob Hoffman-Andrews via Public 
<public@cabforum.org <mailto:public@cabforum.org> > wrote:

With respect, I would suggest that there is already a CAA working group: the 
IETF LAMPS WG at https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/lamps/charter/. It has the 
advantage of being open for anyone to join and post, so CAs can more easily 
have conversations with Subscribers and Relying Parties. If half of the CAA 
conversation happens in LAMPS and half happens here, it will be harder for 
Subscribers and Relying Parties to fully participate.

 

I'd definitely encourage anyone in the CA/Browser Forum who is interested in 
CAA issues to join the LAMPS mailing list at 
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spasm (confusingly, the mailing list is 
named SPASM, a holdover from an earlier name).

 

I think it's likely there will be another ballot or two in the CA/Browser Forum 
clarifying some of the language we use to incorporate CAA, but I think the 
amount of work is not enough to justify splitting out a second working group.


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