Jos – my belief has always been that the proposer can’t/shouldn’t make changes 
to a ballot during the discussion period without the approval of the endorsers, 
and if the proposer doesn’t get approval, an endorser can and should object 
during the discussion period and can withdraw its endorsement (stopping the 
ballot).  I’m not sure it’s necessary for a proposer to publicly say “I agree 
with this edit” – instead, we can assume agreement unless the endorser objects 
on the list.

Once the voting period starts, my belief has been that neither the proposer nor 
the endorsers can stop the ballot (if there’s a problem, I guess they can 
encourage members to vote no).

That’s just my opinion of how our current Bylaws work.  I suppose the next time 
we modify the Bylaws around voting, we can consider adding provisions.

From: Public [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jos Purvis 
(jopurvis) via Public
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 8:58 AM
To: CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <[email protected]>
Subject: [EXTERNAL][cabfpub] Endorsement Changes

While reviewing ballot 216, we noticed that there doesn't appear to be any 
verbiage in the Bylaws describing an endorser's right to remove (or requirement 
to review/reaffirm) their endorsement of a particular ballot. That is, if the 
ballot is changed significantly during the discussion period, there doesn't 
appear to be a requirement for the endorsers to re-affirm their understanding 
and endorsement of the new ballot language. Some of that would be personal 
responsibility: one would expect anyone who endorses a ballot to be keeping up 
with the discussions and withdraw their endorsement of the ballot if they 
disagree with the final version. The language around endorsement, though, 
appears not to require such a re-affirmation after changes. It seems like that 
could potentially open the door to ballot disputes or problems starting the 
voting period if the final post of the ballot before starting the vote included 
(or didn't include!) changes problematic to the endorsers.

Did we miss finding the verbiage around an endorser withdrawing endorsement of 
a ballot? If not, would it make sense to firm up the language and practice 
around endorsements, perhaps by requiring the endorsers to re-affirm their 
final endorsement prior to starting the voting period?

                -- Jos

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