This email relates to an Agenda topic for discussion on our teleconference this 
Thursday, April 5.

In recent discussion of a CA membership application, there was disagreement on 
whether the "audit" that a CA applicant must present needs to be a Period of 
Time (POT) audit, also called a "performance" audit, or whether it is 
sufficient for the CA applicant to have only a Point in Time (PIT) audit, also 
called a "readiness" audit.  (This issue was not critical to the application 
being considered by the Forum.)

As a practical matter these days, CAs generally start their first POT audit for 
a specific root on the date of their successful PIT audit, and then maintain 
POT audits continuously thereafter.  Under WebTrust, the minimum initial time 
period for a POT audit is two months, so it can be completed relatively quickly 
(I'm not sure about ETSI minimum time period for the initial POT audit).

Other forms of auditor reports, such as a "migration audit report", is not 
considered a WebTrust for CAs Audit but rather an Agreed Upon Procedures report 
which is for management use only, and so would not qualify for CA membership 
purposes.

I have inserted a copy of excerpts from Bylaw 2.1 below, parsed to make the 
separate requirements to be a CA member clearer.

It's true that our Bylaw 2.1 only refers to an "audit report" without 
specifying whether this is a POT or PIT audit, or either.  However, I do note 
that Bylaw 2.1(b)(6) which lists information a CA applicant must provide in 
connection with its membership application requires the "URL of the current 
qualifying performance audit report" - the term "performance audit report" 
typically means a POT audit, so that may be a clue that only a successful POT 
audit is acceptable under Bylaw 2.1(a).

On our Thursday call, let's not argue about what current Bylaw 2.1(a) means, 
but instead let's talk about what we think Bylaw 2.1 should require for a new 
CA applicant - a POT audit, a PIT audit, or either.  If needed, I can set up a 
Doodle poll so people can vote on the question.  After full discussion, let's 
then amend Bylaw 2.1(a) so it's clear on that point.  I personally am in favor 
of accepting a POT audit only (even for a minimum two month period), as I think 
that shows the CA is "real" and operating successfully, but I want to hear what 
the advocates of accepting a PIT audit think.

Bylaw 2.1           Qualifying for Forum Membership

(a)  CA/Browser Forum members shall meet at least one of the following 
criteria. ***
(2)  Root CA:


1.       The member organization operates a certification authority

2.       that has a current and successful WebTrust for CAs, or ETSI 102042 or 
ETSI 101456 audit report prepared by a properly-qualified auditor, and

3.       that actively issues certificates to subordinate CAs that, in turn, 
actively issue certificates to Web servers

4.       that are openly accessible from the Internet,

5.       such certificates being treated as valid when  using a browser created 
by a Browser member.

Applicants that are not actively issuing certificates but otherwise meet 
membership criteria may be granted Associate Member status under Bylaw Sec. 3.1 
for a period of time to be designated by the Forum. ***

(b)  Applicants should supply the following information: ***

(6) URL of the current qualifying performance audit report. ***

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