On our May 17 teleconference, we discussed the application of TUV-Austria (an 
ETSI auditing firm) for Associate Membership in the Forum.  There was unanimous 
agreement that TUV-Austria should participate in some way, but there was not 
consensus on what formal status the organization should have.

The Forum's past practice on admitting individual audit firms as Associate 
Members in their own name or as representatives of the audit scheme they follow 
(e.g., ETSI / ACABc) has not been consistent.  I'd like to discuss a possible 
Bylaws change to clarify this on our May 31 teleconference.

1.  Current Bylaw Provisions

Here are current Bylaws provisions.

3.1         Associate Members
The Forum may enter into associate member relationships with other 
organizations when the CA/Browser Forum determines that maintaining such a 
relationship will be of benefit to the work of the Forum.  In the past, 
entities qualifying as Associate Members have included the AICPA/CICA WebTrust 
Task Force, the European Telecommunications Standards Institute, Paypal, the 
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, tScheme, the U.S. Federal 
PKI, and CAs applying for membership but awaiting full qualification under 
Section 2.1.  Participation as an Associate Member is by invitation only.  In 
order to become an Associate Member, an organization must sign a mutual letter 
of intent, understanding, or other agreement and the Forum's IPR Agreement, 
unless this latter requirement is waived in writing by the Forum based on 
overriding policies of the Associate Member's own organization IPR rules.  
Associate Members may attend face-to-face meetings, communicate with Forum 
Members on member lists, and access Forum wiki content.  Associate Members are 
not entitled to vote except on special straw polls of the Forum (e.g. when 
selecting meeting dates, locations, etc.)

3.2  Interested Parties

Any person or entity that wishes to participate in the Forum as an Interested 
Party may do so by providing their name, affiliation (optional), and contact 
information, and by agreeing to the IPR Agreement attached as Exhibit A 
(indicating agreement by manual signing or digitally signing the agreement).

Interested Parties may participate in Forum activities in the following ways:
(a)  By becoming involved in Working Groups,
(b)  By posting to the Public Mail List, and
(c)   By participating in those portions of Forum Teleconferences and Forum 
Meetings to which they are invited by the Forum Chair relating to their areas 
of special expertise or the subject of their Working Group participation.
Interested Parties are required to comply with the provisions of the IPR 
Agreement and these Bylaws.  Interested Parties may lose their status as 
Interested Parties by vote of the Members, in the Members' sole discretion.

The biggest differences between Associate Member (AM) and Interested Party (IP) 
status are that AMs can participate on all Forum teleconferences, attend all 
meetings, and receive mailings on the Management@ list (which is generally 
limited to meeting logistics and review of draft Minutes).  The Chair can 
invite IPs to participate in specific portions of teleconferences and meetings 
as warranted.

2.  Associate Members and their related entities

There are three main Associate Members who often have their own members or 
related entities participate in teleconferences and meetings, and not always at 
the specific invitation of the Chair: (1) WebTrust, (2) ETSI/ACABc, and (3) 
Federal PKI.  Some of the related entities of these AMs have been individual 
audit firms for WebTrust and ETSI/ACABc, and various government agencies and 
outside contractors for FPKI.

Clearly the actual officers or representatives of an AM (like Jeff Ward and Don 
Sheehy for WebTrust, and Arno Fiedler and Nick Pope for ETSI) should be allowed 
to participate for those organizations without invitation by the Chair.  The 
situation has sometimes been less clear for FPKI, as the exact governing 
structure for that name appears to be a "network" and not an entity:

What is the Federal PKI?  https://fpki.idmanagement.gov/#what-is-the-federal-pki
The Federal PKI is a network of hundreds of certification authorities (CAs) 
that issue:
*       PIV credentials and person identity certificates
*       PIV-Interoperable credentials and person identity certificates
*       Other person identity certificates
*       Enterprise device identity certificates
The participating Certification Authorities and the Policies, Processes, and 
Auditing of all the participants is referred to as the Federal Public Key 
Infrastructure (FPKI).
The FPKI includes US federal, State, Local, Tribal, Territorial, international 
governments, and commercial organizations who work together to provide services 
for the benefit of the federal government.

Deborah Gallagher signed our IPR Agreement in 2013 as "Chair, Federal PKI 
Policy Authority".

How should other audit firms like TUV-Austria or WebTrust qualified auditors 
who want to attend meetings or calls be classified?  Clearly they must first 
sign our current IPR Agreement, but do they attend as "Associate Members" under 
the status of their supervising organization, or do they attend only as 
Interested Parties who need the invitation of the Chair each time?  And how do 
we treat the various related entities who work on the FPKI network?

3.  Suggested Approach

The situation has not been abuses in the past, but we should create a clearer 
set of rules.  In my opinion, we should delegate to the existing Associate 
Members which related entities can participate on a regular basis, without the 
specific invitation of the Chair in each case.

I suggest we add a sentence to Bylaw 3.1 - Associate Members that allows 
Associate Members themselves to designate representatives of related entities 
to participate in teleconferences and attend meetings under the status of the 
designating Associate Member (but in their own name, not the name of the 
Associate Member), and only after signing the current IPR Agreement.  This 
would allow, for example, WebTrust to authorize participation by individual 
auditors who are not actual WebTrust officers, the same for ETSI/ACABc, and 
possibly the same for FPKI.  We would first have to determine who actually 
speaks for FPKI as a "network" and would have the authority to designate 
representatives of related entities who could participate under FPKI's 
Associate Member status.

To do this, we could add the following new paragraph at the end of Bylaw 3.1 - 
Associate Members:

Associate Members may designate representatives of their related entities 
(including their members or network members) to participate in Forum 
teleconferences and meetings on an ongoing or on a limited basis with the same 
rights as an Associate Member, and may remove such designations at any time.  
The related entities must sign the Forum's applicable IPR Agreements and must 
participate in their own names and not as representatives of the Associate 
Members who designated them.  In the event that too many related entities are 
designated by an Associate Member in the Chair's opinion, the Chair may limit 
the number of related entities that an Associate Member may designate under 
this provision.

We will discuss this on our May 31 teleconference.  I welcome other ideas.

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