Here’s a threshold question – should this be a Working Group (independent from 
the Forum and from all other Working Groups), or should it just be a 
Subcommittee of the Forum itself (providing infrastructure help to all Working 
Groups and to the Forum itself, and subject to the Forum’s ultimate control)?  
I believe the latter.

Suppose this independent WG says all emails for the Forum and the different WGs 
must be triple encoded using some elliptic curve (as a ridiculous example)?  Or 
that all teleconferences should use rotary phones?  Should an independent WG be 
able to issue orders to the other WGs and to the Forum on how they communicate?

From: Public [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Hollebeek 
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Infrastructure Working Group

I’ll endorse.

Should the Questions List Coordinator be an official role as well?

Do we need an end date?  We can dissolve the Working Group by ballot at any 
time we feel it is no longer needed.  I don’t anticipate that happening …

-Tim

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On Behalf Of Jos Purvis (jopurvis) via Public
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To: CA/B Forum Public List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [cabfpub] Draft Ballot 227: Establish Forum Infrastructure Working 
Group

All,

I’m enclosing the following draft ballot per our discussion a few months ago 
about creating this group. Note that since this is a Forum-level Working Group, 
this is a Forum-level ballot. Once I have endorsers for it, I’ll establish 
dates to start the discussion and voting periods.

Ballot 227: Establish Forum Infrastructure Working Group

Purpose of Ballot
The CA/Browser Forum has grown considerably over the last few years and is now 
dividing its work in to working groups to more carefully address specific 
certificate needs. The responsibilities of managing the various pieces of 
infrastructure the Forum uses in its work, such as the wiki and listserves, has 
grown considerably. With immense gratitude to each of the Forum members that 
have helped to provide this infrastructure, the work of managing it should no 
longer be left as a volunteer best-effort function of any single Forum member. 
This ballot would establish a working group chartered to ensure the 
infrastructure supporting the Forum continues to meet its needs.

The following motion has been proposed by Jos Purvis of Cisco and endorsed by 
XXX and YYY.

— MOTION BEGINS —

Upon approval of the CAB Forum by ballot, the Forum Infrastructure Working 
Group (“FIWG”) is created as a Working Group of the CA/Browser Forum to perform 
the activities as specified in this Charter, subject to the terms and 
conditions of the CA/Browser Forum Bylaws and Intellectual Property Rights 
(IPR) Policy. The definitions found in the Forum’s Bylaws shall apply to 
capitalized terms in this Charter.

Scope
The authorized scope of the Forum Infrastructure Working Group shall be as 
follows:

  1.  To oversee the acquisition, operation, and maintenance of the common 
CA/Browser Forum website and wiki resources;
  2.  To coordinate updates to public and Forum-facing web and wiki content in 
support of the Forum Webmaster role established in the Bylaws;
  3.  To create and manage the division of access and content spaces required 
to ensure separation under the IP Rights Agreement that governs the Forum;
  4.  To manage the Forum-level email lists and to offer management of 
working-group and subcommittee mailing lists as needed in support of the Forum 
List Manager role established in the Bylaws;
  5.  To perform other activities ancillary to the primary activities listed 
above.
Out of Scope
The Forum Infrastructure Working Group (“FIWG”) will not address coordination 
of Forum or Working Group face-to-face meetings. The FIWG will not at this time 
address the acquisition or maintenance of software or services used for online 
or teleconference meetings of the Forum Plenary or Working Groups. The work of 
the FIWG in managing content updates to online content shall be offered to 
Working Groups and Subcommittees, but shall not supplant the responsibilities 
of Forum chairs or members to do so under the requirements of the Bylaws.

Anticipated End Date
The Working Group shall be chartered for a period of two years, to begin from 
the date of the adoption of this charter by the Forum. At the end of that 
period, the Forum may extend the charter of this group according to the 
provisions of the Bylaws.

Personnel and Participation
Initial Chairs and Contacts
TBD

Members Eligible to Participate
The membership of the FIWG shall automatically include the Chairs of all other 
Forum Working Groups, or those Chairs’ specifically delegated representatives 
as indicated in an annual note to the FIWG mailing list. The FIWG shall also 
automatically include the Forum List Manager and Forum Webmaster as designated 
by the Forum Chair. The FIWG welcomes the participation of any Member 
organization of the Forum Plenary interested in this work, and also invites 
Interested Parties and Associate Members as defined in the Bylaws to 
participate in its meetings and work.

Membership Declaration
The following people shall be automatically declared as Members of the FIWG:

  *   The Forum Plenary Chair;
  *   The Forum Plenary Vice-Chair;
  *   The Forum Plenary Webmaster;
  *   The Forum Plenary List Manager.
The Chair of each Forum Working Group shall be automatically declared a Member 
of the FIWG unless they specifically designate an alternate in their place. 
Other Member organizations of the Forum may declare their participation and 
must do so prior to participating, in accordance with the IPR Policy of the 
Forum. The Chair of the FIWG shall establish a list for declarations of 
participation and manage it in accordance with the Bylaws and the IPR Policy.

Voting and Voting Structure
Voting in the FIWG shall be limited to FIWG members who are listed as a voting 
Member of any other Working Group in the Forum. Voting shall be egalitarian, 
with one vote granted to each Member organization. Ballots shall be adopted by 
the FIWG if the number of votes cast meets Quorum, and the number of votes in 
favor exceeds 50% of the votes cast. Quorum is defined as the average number of 
Member organizations that have participated in the last three FIWG Meetings or 
Teleconferences (not counting subcommittee meetings thereof). For transition 
purposes, if three meetings have not yet occurred, quorum is five (5). For the 
purposes of counting votes, automatically included members such as the Forum 
Webmaster may not cast votes separate from their Member organization.

Summary of Major WG Deliverables and Guidelines
The deliverables of the FIWG are defined in the Scope section above. In 
addition to the general focus of the Working Group, however, the following 
specific deliverables are defined:

  *   A review of the current web, document review, and wiki software in use to 
ensure it meets the security and content needs of the Forum;
  *   Creation of separate wiki space for each Working Group, to enable the 
division of content required by the IP Rights Agreement;
  *   A review of the current public web content and reorganization as required 
to support the new Forum Working Group changes.

Primary Means of Communication
The FIWG will communicate primarily through listserv-based email, and shall 
conduct periodic calls or face-to-face meetings as needed.

IPR Policy
As with all Forum Working Group activity, the CA/Browser Forum Intellectual 
Rights Policy v1.3 or later shall apply to all activities and work of the FIWG.

— MOTION ENDS —

The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:
Discussion Period (7 days)
Start Time:
End Time:
Vote for Approval (7 days)
Start Time:
End Time:


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