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Date: Friday, February 7, 2020 at 2:29 AM
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Subject: [cabfpub] Final Minutes for CA/Browser Forum Teleconference - January 
23 2020

 


These are the Final Minutes of the Teleconference described in the subject of 
this message. 
Attendees (in alphabetical order)
Arno Fiedler (D-TRUST), Clint Wilson (Apple), Corey Bonnell (SecureTrust), 
Chris Kemmerer (SSL.com), David Moeller (Sectigo), Dean Coclin (Digicert), 
Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA), Doug Beattie (GlobalSign), Dustin Hollenback 
(Microsoft), Enrico Entschew (D-TRUST), Inaba Atsushi (GlobalSign), India 
Donald (US Federal PKI Management Authority), Janet Hines (SecureTrust), Joanna 
Fox (GoDaddy), Kirk Hall (Entrust Datacard), Leo Grove (SSL.com), Li-Chun Chen 
(Chunghwa Telecom), Michelle Coon (OATI), Mike Reilly (Microsoft), Neil Dunbar 
(TrustCor Systems), Patrick Nohe (GlobalSign), Pedro Fuentes (OISTE 
Foundation), Peter Miskovic (Disig), Rashmi Jha (Microsoft), Rich Smith 
(Sectigo), Robin Alden (Sectigo), Ryan Sleevi (Google), Thanos Vrachnos 
(SSL.com), Tim Callan (Sectigo), Timo Schmitt (SwissSign), Tobias Josefowitz 
(Opera Software AS), Trevoli Ponds-White (Amazon), Vincent Lynch (Digicert), 
Wayne Thayer (Mozilla). 
Minutes 
1. Roll Call
The Chair took attendance. 
2. Read Antitrust Statement
The Antitrust Statement was read. 
3. Review Agenda
Accepted without changes.
4. Approval of minutes from last teleconference 
Approved without objections.
5. Forum Infrastructure Subcommittee update
The subcommittee call lasted about 5 minutes because there was not enough 
participation.
6. Code Signing Working Group update
The WG invited a representative from the Clean Software Alliance (CSA) to the 
call. They were previously associated with Microsoft and now they are an 
independent organization. They will look at potential synergies between CSA and 
the CA/B Forum working groups. There was also interest in the validation 
subcommittee so Dean will send an email to the subcommittee Chair about that. 
Dean described the structure of the Forum and will have a follow-up call with 
their representative. They also invited Forum Members to attend a meeting in LA 
at the end of the month. Some browsers and OS vendors will be participating.
The February Summit is being postponed for March. A new Doodle poll will be 
circulated.
Discussed about improvements in validating and vetting for code signing 
certificates. 
Tomas talked about key attestation and some customers having problems proving 
possession of keys in cloud instances, using Google cloud HSM as an example. 
This affects section 16.3 of the Code Signing BRs. Each Vendor  has a 
proprietary solution and we need to modify the BRs for Code Signing with 
appropriate language to take the remote key attestation into account when 
subscriber keys are generated remotely. There was a suggestion to review 
Adobe's AATL Policy for guidance.
7.  Follow-up on new S/MIME WG Charter
There is some debate on the draft language of the S/MIME charter that seem to 
allow the case where an S/MIME Certificate may not contain an email address. 
This is very close to being completed.
8.  Action items from F2F 48 
Dimitris went over the list of pending actions from the last F2F. Most of the 
topics related to the Bylaws have been incorporated in a draft next revision of 
the Bylaws. Arno is planning to get feedback about the ETSI update next week at 
the scheduled ETSI ESI F2F meeting.
9.  Topics for F2F 49
No suggestions.
10.  Draft next revision of the Bylaws
Dimitris went over the main updates proposed in the next revision of the Bylaws 
that were circulated in the public list. There were no objections for the 
suggested changes. Dimitris plans on discussing a couple more issues at the 
next F2F and then prepare a ballot for updating the Bylaws. Due to the fact 
that some Members require legal review for Bylaws changes, we try to keep these 
changes limited to once a year.
11. Any Other Business
Patrick mentioned that accommodation information for F2F 51 is available on the 
wiki. Globalsign has added hotel information and there are special rates for 
Members. However, some of them require early booking until the end of March 
2020.
12. Next call
February 6, 2020 at 11:00 am Eastern Time. 
Adjourned
F2F Meeting Schedule: 
2020: Feb 18-20 Bratislava (Disig), June 9-11 Minneapolis (OATI), October 20-22 
Tokyo (GlobalSign)
2021: Feb-March Dubai (DarkMatter), May 25-27 Poland (Asseco-Certum), October - 
San Jose, CA or RTP, NC (Cisco)
2022: Mar-April New Delhi / Bengaluru (e-Mudhra), June - [Open], October [Open]

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