I’m willing to drop the scope statement based on Thursday’s discussion and the 
addition of the paragraph I suggested to the introduction, which describes much 
of the same thing in a form that seems more acceptable to most.  Clint and 
Wayne, are you ok with that?

 

On the subject of redlines, //github_redline_guide is not normative, so I 
disagree that it is not a valid Ballot.  But that’s not really important, 
because I’m more than happy to improve the ballot by fixing the link.

 

Assuming Clint and Wayne sign off, please merge the change, and I’ll update the 
ballot.

 

-Tim

 

From: Ryan Sleevi <[email protected]> 
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 5:44 PM
To: Tim Hollebeek <[email protected]>; CABforum1 <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [cabfpub] Ballot FORUM-12: Creation of S/MIME Certificates Working 
Group

 

 

 

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 5:18 PM Tim Hollebeek via Public <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Upon approval of the CAB Forum by ballot in accordance with section 5.3 of the 
Bylaws, the S/MIME Certificates Working Group (“SMWG”) is created to perform 
the activities as specified in the Charter, with the Charter as described here 
(https://github.com/cabforum/documents/pull/167/commits/2aa376c06b45146249d0cc6b8cc5d42d08ccb177).

 

Just to be clear: This link doesn't match the link for a valid proposal, so I 
don't think this is a valid Ballot yet. 
https://wiki.cabforum.org/github_redline_guide is helpful, but any suggestions 
for improvements are welcome.

 

The immutable link is 
https://github.com/cabforum/documents/compare/6e0b8e61590164eb2d686ddcf266b189f46fc636...2aa376c06b45146249d0cc6b8cc5d42d08ccb177

 

The pull request is still https://github.com/cabforum/documents/pull/167 

 

Again, our concern is that the statement that "non-publicly trusted S/MIME 
certificates are out of scope" accomplishes nothing valuable, and causes real 
harm. That is, either it fails to keep anything out of scope due to its 
definition, OR limits the discussion to being impossible to introduce any new 
requirements due to, by definition, anything not in the existing documents is 
out of scope. Neither of these scenarios are good, and the risk of harm 
outweighs any benefits. We remain committed to trying to work with you and 
understand your goals, to find language that better captures those goals 
without the problematic ambiguity and harm of what's being proposed.

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