On 2020-06-12 8:44 μ.μ., Tony Rutkowski wrote:
Hi Dimitris,
I believe you are bound by law to consider this as it involves
anticompetive conduct. You minimally have a duty to inform the membership.
This is a public list, which includes all Members by default, so by
sending your email the Membership became informed :-)
The officer duties are described in our Bylaws. As much as I hate
calling out these things, I must remind you that our Code of Conduct
<https://secureservercdn.net/45.40.150.47/273.6a1.myftpupload.com/wp-content/uploads/CA-Browser-Forum-Bylaws-v2.3.pdf>
specifically mentions about insulting remarks. I will not go into the
essence of your message about "Let's Oppose" but you are making
demeaning comments about a CA/B Forum Member and this is a behavior not
in line with our CoC.
Thanks,
Dimitris.
--Tony R
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Hi Tony,
Let's not.
The CA/Browser Forum is not the proper venue to discuss such legal
debates. The Forums is more focused on discussing technical standards
and policy, not debates between legal entities.
Thanks for understanding.
Best regards,
Dimitris Zacharopoulos
CA/B Forum Chair
On 2020-06-12 6:24 μ.μ., Tony Rutkowski wrote:
Hi all,
https://www.theregister.com/2020/06/10/lets_encrypt_trademark_complaints/
This is preposterous and an abuse of the trademark and standards systems.
If you use the US Patent and Trademark Office online system, you can
see the full history.
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=tess&state=4810:tltw3o.1.1
Click on Basic Word Mark Search and enter “Let’s Encrypt”
This was originally Comodo’s mark filed on 16 Oct 2015 and abandoned
25 June 2016. Thirteen days later, ISRG as a non-profit 501.c.3
filed for the mark.
A considerable number of entities have used the term in the
marketplace for all kinds of purposes as a political movement.
Google Search finds about 6,840,00 of them going back almost 20 years.
It is found 447 times in the IETF alone for advancing all manner of
activities without ever disclosing a trademark assertion.
For the ISRG to threaten some other company for using the term “Let’s
Encrypt” with the arguments at the end of The Register article is
preposterous
Lastly and most significantly, the actual Let’s Encrypt word mark –
Serial Number 88828174 was just filed on 10 March 2020, asserting
first use in commerce on 24 Feb 2020, and is just being published for
Opposition on 7 July 2020.
It is time to LET’S OPPOSE
--tony
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