Thanks Ben, happy to endorse.

One minor nit, since there is no longer a "transition" phase, we should probably remove the part about the quorum that says:

"For transition purposes, if three meetings have not yet occurred, quorum is ten (10)."


Best,
Dimitris.

On 18/10/2023 7:50 μ.μ., Ben Wilson wrote:
Thanks for your input, Dimitris.
I've amended section 4.d. as proposed - https://github.com/cabforum/forum/commit/c6850e24eb49d5cfcb00eae4d11e82544504bffb
Thanks again,
Ben

On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 3:03 AM Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) <[email protected]> wrote:


    Hello Ben,

    At F2F58
    
<https://cabforum.org/2023/03/02/minutes-of-the-f2f-58-meeting-in-ottawa-canada-28-february-1-march-2023/>we
    had a discussion about the lessons learned from ballot SC60
    
<https://cabforum.org/wp-content/uploads/11-CABF_Lessons-learned-from-SC60.pdf>.
    During that meeting, a proposal was made that seems to fix the
    ambiguity of the current Bylaws.

    In line 93 of the proposed ballot, it says:

    /**(d)** There is a mandatory six-month probationary period
    during which any representative of an Applicant must attend at
    least 30% of all SCWG teleconferences (not counting subcommittee
    meetings) and at least one SCWG face-to-face meeting (either
    physically or virtually). After successful completion of the
    mandatory probationary period and meeting all requirements of
    section 3(a) or 3(b), an Applicant may become a Voting Member, if
    the SCWG determines by consensus among the Members during a
    Meeting or Teleconference, or upon the request of any Member, by
    a Ballot among the Members, that the Applicant meets the
    requirements of section 3(a) or 3(b). Acceptance by consensus
    shall be determined, or a Ballot of the Members shall be held, as
    soon as the Applicant indicates that it has presented all
    information required and has responded to all follow-up questions
    from the SCWG and the Applicant has complied with the
    requirements of Section 5.5 of the CA/Browser Forum Bylaws./

    Instead of:

    /"or upon the request of any Member, by a Ballot among the
    Members, by a Ballot among the Members, that the Applicant meets
    the requirements of section 3(a) or 3(b)" /

    please update to:

    /"or upon the request of any Member that challenges the
    Applicant's adherence to all of the requirements of section 3(a)
    or 3(b), by a Ballot among the Members."/

    I read the rest of the proposed changes and they look good. If you
    are ok with the change above, HARICA would be happy to endorse the
    ballot.


    Best regards,
    Dimitris.

    On 13/10/2023 1:23 π.μ., Ben Wilson via Public wrote:
    All,

    I am planning to introduce a Forum ballot to amend the Server
    Certificate Working Group Charter.

    At a high level, here are some of the proposed changes:

      * Section numbering added
      * "Root Certificate Issuer" voting category removed
      * Membership requirements for Certificate Consumers added
      * 6-month probationary period prior to voting membership added
      * Voting percentages and quorum clarified

    Because there are numerous proposed changes, here are a diff and
    a blob for your review.

    
https://github.com/cabforum/forum/compare/59185f16917cc7f5b83564fe5fddff32cf84c8ce...85e569a43a5a2c9e5e16ce8bf1e569a98cfbd720

    <https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/goog_919727603>
    
https://github.com/cabforum/forum/blob/BenWilson-SCWG-charter-1.3/SCWG-charter.md

    I look forward to your comments and suggestions.

    Thanks,

    Ben


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